Thanks,

I am stating to think that this may be where the "W" gau mark story came from.

If anyone else has "Wf" photos handy, I would be interesting to see if more are struck at a slight angle.

Dave

Here I have seen such interesting photo: http://ak-group.ru/forum/showthread.php? t=402

I have been researching these as information turned up, and the only definitive information in print that I could find was in a mid 1930's SA Verordnungsblatt indicating that 'leather frogs for the daggers have been observed being worn, and they are forbidden to be used. All SA daggers will be worn on the standard hanger with the stabilizing strap'.
Most of the vertical SA hangers (not the bayonet looking frogs) seem to be early, and likely predate the edict from the OSAF.
Erich

Erich,

I think you are correct. The original thought on vertical frog-like hangers was published in 1970, but period pictures are as above - from the back and fairly early after the issue of the daggers.
Dave

Good thread! I have one of these so called frogs in my collection and is RZM L2 marked like the rest only mine is black, now if you look at the above pic there looks to be two colors of frogs, brown and black and the black frogs look to be carried by lower rank men since they are the ones carring the pack and the guys in the front with no packs look to be officers with brown frogs. Interesting, Dave do you want me to post a pic of my dagger with this frog?

Fritziii

Yes, please post.

I have a dagger with a frog like vertical that I need to post as well.

Dave

Here are pics of my SA frog hngr, the dagger is an Aesoloupe and is gau marked SW. The hanger itself is RZM marked klike you see the rest of them marked.

Fritziii

#2

#3

#4

Last one with the dagger in place. The intersting thing is this hanger is black which I suspected might be for NSKK but from the pics above showing two different colors of hfrog in wear I think it's a rank designation, just my guess from seeing the picture posted above.

Fritziii

VERY NICE

Shouldn't this thread be posted in the section below?


Edged Weapons Accoutrements Forum

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Bob,

I regard these as "Dealer's Choice". If the poster wants to put them in the Accouterments (Accroutrements for some) area or here, I can accept either choice.

In this case, I was the dealer, so here it stays

dave

OK...I'm down with that!