i saw an interesting sa dagger today black grip and scabbard nickel fittings with just the hint of gilt and the makers mark was a sailor with a pipe sa marine?
the condition was ex+ with a near mint blade the asking price was £400 $800
how rare are these and should i have bought it?

From your description even if it was only a SA it was probably a good buy cant remember who that maker is but think its a scarce one the black grip suggests Marine and it was cheap at £400 IMO

i am out of touch
a well known uk dealer gives me £280 for any sa i find in good condition i thought he was generous!

I think the maker you are looking at is Perfectum.(CD Schaaff).

Generous dealer? Good one! The sarcastic jokes are always the best IMO

the grip was so black i thought it was a 33 ss i asked the price before turning it over to see the sa rune if i had not been disapointed in it not being ss i probably would have bought it or at least tried to haggle

Think Landser is right about the maker Fisher has them at less than 1000 made so probably a 9 or 10 on Mcsaar.Clean SAs are making £350 to £380 regularly on UK dealer sites and really nice ones command more I recently left a bid of £400 on one estimated at £250 wasnt near the final bid of £480 PLUS commission

if it is original one its one of the rarest dagger.
first model sa-marine there are not much out there.

Here's a nice one I picked up a couple of years ago...

The grip...

Very nice Stuart

look for infos about these dagger and it seem´s this is the one you searching.
perfectum with black grip.

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=1683861

mark inside the grip are they real ??

Here one more example

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Here's mine, a slight beater by Konejung.

the one i was offered didnt have a painted grip it was dyed just like an ss would be

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Originally posted by nickn2:
the one i was offered didnt have a painted grip it was dyed just like an ss would be

Mine shown above is dyed.