Hi,
I got offered this NSKK Navy.
It looks great but there is one strange thing...the is absolute no makers mark, no RZM.
Have you ever heard about this?
Heinz

...another picture...

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I'am confused about the NON-maker mark as well. Would a maker not want to show of it's capabilities with a dagger like this??

Sorry didn't realize you where going to post all pics. I guess everybody got offered the dagger as its in an auction...lol

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Originally posted by kwakernaak:
Sorry didn't realize you where going to post all pics. I guess everybody got offered the dagger as its in an auction...lol

Got me...so what do you think?
For me it's strange.
A friend of mine got a ground Rhoem where the Makers Logo (Eickhorn) is nearly polished out together with the name. Could this have happened here too?
Heinz

I'am nor sure Heinz. It could be. Some of these RZM daggers are very "thinly" etched. So it could be.I must say that everything looks good. The thing is that I would only buy a dagger if I would not wonder about it constantly. It's up to the experts on this one. I don't have one like this and have nothing to compare with.
If all the rest is 100% original the blade is easily replaced to make this an awsome piece. I just am not sure about that either. I was actually waiting till somebody posted it.

20 + years ago I turned an NSKK ‘chained’ dagger up in a bunch of
relics that were without a doubt all genuine. The dolch had no maker on it and clearly never had had one. Since everything else was legit I just chalked it up to an oversight on the part of the factory.

I showed it to Tom Whittman and he immediately pointed out to me that the cross guards appeared to be a little ‘fat’.

He told me that he had observed this anomaly before (no maker SA) and it was invariably accompanied by the fat CGs. It’s a legitimate variation by a single maker but since the maker is ‘absent’ we may never know who that maker was.

A NSKK chained marine is a rare dagger indeed.
All the examples I have seen are RZM 7/66 Eickhorn
marked with a date. However what seens to be a original piece is not worth, in my opinion,
"going after". Since the blade is unmarked. But thanks for Texasuberalles on relaying that interesting story. -wagner-

The crossguard isn´t "fat" , it is the "straight" (upper line of the lower crossguard is straight instead of a light bow as it is common) variant seen in some of the type 1 chained SSdaggers and some NPEAdaggers. at least with SSchained ones the certain crossguard(s) are magnetig, obvously made from iron (NO magnetic nickle!). I even think to remember having seen them on SAdaggers and there related to the PACK trademark. Totallylegit.
My comment is only on the certain crossguard. Cannot comment on the dagger shown here as imo you seriously can judge such a difficult piece only in hands by very very carful inspection and some knowledge....