Hello I'm new on this forum so I will do a quick introduction, my name is Frans and I'm from The Netherlands. For at least 45 years we have this dagger in our family. The handle is brown and both the eagle as the sa sign are taken out and the text alles fur deutschland on the blade is shaven away. All this was done in the Czech Republik ( czechoslowakia )where I was born. On the blade is still the RZM mark with M7/1/38, I believe Gebrüder Christians Christianswerk,Solingen ? The scabbard is black and all the screws are original and in place. The scabbars has never been dissasambled and everything is still in there. I will place some pictures for a better look.
The dagger isn't discoverd in the Czech ! The story of how it get in our family is that my father worked in the late 50's for a moving company(CSAD)and he received it as a gift from a client they had to move his furniture and other things.The reason why the items where removed is that in those days the communists wheren't very pleased with people who had German items in their possesion.
I have no doubt that it is a genuine NSKK. I have seen several SA daggers that came from the old Warsaw Pact countries with the symbols removed that looked just like that.
Dave
Posts: 9203 | Location: Southeast | Registered: 09 September 2000
Though badly defaced I'd keep it just the way it is. Don't sell it now. Keep these original parts together. I believe that as time goes by and the prime daggers have been scooped up, daggers like yours will rise in value. It has already happened in American Civil War artifacts and will likely occur with yours from WWII - though perhaps many years from now.
Posts: 301 | Location: USA: AMERICAN | Registered: 21 November 2006
Sell the dagger. He said he wanted to sell it, so why tell him to keep it, it is not very collectible in that condition. Lets face it that is a common dagger, if you really wanted a mint one you can buy one from a lot of different dealers.
Selling it or keeping it is up to him. He's asked for some advice so I have given it to him. My guess is you are a dealer. He is not. This dagger has been in his family for 45 years. Once he has considered that fact the dagger may mean something more to him than it does to you.
Posts: 301 | Location: USA: AMERICAN | Registered: 21 November 2006
Iam a collector/dealer, more collector then dealer.One of the first things this gentleman said was he wanted to sell the dagger, he is not a collector, and is just looking for a value on his dagger, plain and simple. He is probably not thinking like "us" collectors he just wants to move it down the road, which i do not blame him, who would want to place that particular dagger in their collection. Anyway that is just my point of view on this subject. thanks Bob
I respect all the comment you give me on my dagger, even when it's not to sell Yes, the dagger is more than 45 years in my family and no I'm not a collecter like you are and it's not that I don't like to have the dagger but he is just catching dust overhere. In mine opinion I could better make some one happy that see the (historic) value of it than keeping it somewhere in the basement. Like you can see on the BCN Bayonet forum I also have a matching number K98 bayonet wich is also for almost the same period in mine family anr that one I'm also want to sell for the same reason. My opinion is that some items will be better of in the hands/ collection of a real collector than just laying around somewhere.
Frans & Robert, I'm glad we can share differing opinions about these daggers. When I learned of the importance and value of my inherited dagger it held more significance in my mind. I have struggled for years making a decision of selling it. It has been in my family for over 60 years. If the monetary value exceeds the sentimental value perhaps I'll sell it. Perhaps I brought too much personal thought to my opinion for Frans. I didn't want him to regret selling it after - the - fact. But your reasoning is well thought out.
Good Luck - I hope you get the most for both!
Posts: 301 | Location: USA: AMERICAN | Registered: 21 November 2006
