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This will be a log of Gau marks & Makers used to establish rarity. Post your SA Maker and Gau mark below and I will transfer reults to this page.
Dave Aesculap, Tuttlingen ………………………. Sw; Sw; Sw; Wm; Sw; Sw;Sw; AMSO - See Mebus, Albert ……………… Asso (Schuttelhoffer)………………………. Ns; Ns;Sa;No; Axt und Hauerfabrik ………………………..Sa; Nrh; Wf; No;Sa;Wf;Nrh; Backhaus, F W ……………………………..Ns Bahrl, Julius Balke & Sohne, Rich ………………………. Wf;Wf;Wf; Barthelmess, Fritz …………………………. Fr;Fr;Fr; Becker, Eduard ………………………………He; Becker Gebr ……………… ….……………. No; Wf; No;Ns Bell, gebr ……………………………………. He; Bo Bender, Carl ………………………………… Ha Berns, Gebr ………………………………….Ho+A37 Berns, Hugo Bertram, C. Reinh. Sohn Bickel, August …………….………………. He; Bo; Mi;Mi;Mi;Fr Bismark Bocker, Karl ………………………………... P; Bodenstein, Julius Bohme Gebr ……………………………….. Sa;Th; Bonsmann, E ………………………………. P; Bontgen & Sabin ………………………….. No; Born Gebr ………………………………….. Wf; Brosy F. Von ………………………………. Ho;OST; Ha; Bruckman, Ernst ………………………….. Ho; Wm; Ho; Buchel, Rudolf ……………………………… Ns Bulldog ……………………………………... Nrh; Ho; Ho; Busch, Ernst Christians, Gebr ……………………… Nrh; Nrh; Nrh;Nrh;Nrh Chromolit ……………………………………. S; NmS; Cleff, Ewald Clemen & jung Curdts Natchf ……………………………….. Ho Dick, F ………………………………………. Sw;Sw;Wm;Wm;Sw;He;Wm;Sw;Sw;Sw;Sw;Wm; Dirlam, Ernst Dirlam & Sohn, J. Dittert, JE Sa; Dorschel Albert …………………………….. Wm; Drees & sohn, Rich …………………………S Ebel, Paul …………………………………… Wf;Wf; Eickelnberg & Mack Eickhorn, Carl ……………………………... Ns;No;No;Wf;Wf;He;Wf;Ha;He;Ns; No;Nrh;S;Fr;Wf;Bo;Ha;Fr;Wf;Wf;Nm;Fr;Wf;Wf;Ha;Wf;Wf;S; Eppenstein & Sohne, Carl …………………Nm;NmWm; Felix, Gustav ……………………………….. Wm;Wm Geigis, Friedrich Ns; Grembruch, Ed Gierling, Emil ……………………………….. Wf;Wf;O; Giersch, Rob …………………………………Wm Geisen & Forsthoff …………………………. Ns;S; Grafrath, Gebr Grah, Carl Grah, Ernst Grah, Reinhold ………………………………Wf;Om; Groten, Ludwig ……………………………… Wf;Ns; Haas, Carl Haastert & Bull …………………………….. B; He; HACO, Berlin ………………………………. B;B;B;B;B;B; Haenel, C.G., Suhl …………. Sa; Th; Sa;Sa;Sa;Sa;Mi;Sa;Sa;Da; Haering, Eugen …………………………….. Wf;Wf; Hahn, Hermann …………………………… Om;S; Haker, Gustave …………………………….. H Halbach, Wilhelm Halbach, Carl Hammesfahr & Cie ………………………...OST;No;P;He;S; Hartkopf & Co…………………………………Nm Hartkopf, Rich Heidelberg, Carl ……………………………. P; Wf; Helbig, F&A Heller, Gebr, Schmalkalden ………………. Sa;Bo;Mi;Sa;Bo;Mi; Heller, Gebr, Marienthal…………………….Th;Th;Th; Henkels, J.A. ………………………………. OST; Wf; W;Nrh;Bo;Wf;OST;BO; Henckels, Paul Henckel & Muller+A202 Herbeck & Meyer ……………… ………….No;Nrh Herbertz & Meurer …………………………. He; Herder, H ……………………………………. He Herder, F ……………………………………. Nrh; Wf; Wf; Wm;Wf;Nrh;Ost;Nrh;Ns Herder & Engels Herder, Rich. Abr ………………………….. Wm Herder, Robert ………………………………..Nrh;Wm Herder & Sohn ………………………………Ns; Holler, F.W …………………………………. Wm;Wm:Wm; Hoppe, Curt …………………………………. Ha; Hoppe Sohne, Gottfr………………………...Nm; Hoppe, Wilhelm ……………………………..Wf Horster, E&F ………………………………...Nrh Jacobs, C. Rud. Jacobs & Co …………………………………He; Johanneswerk Justinuswerk ………………………………... He; Bo;Bo;He;He; Jordan, F.W ………………………………... He; Kaiser. Emil ………………………………… Nm;Om; Kaldenbach, Karl Robert ……………………P; Kaufmann & Sohne ………………………... Ns; Nrh; Nrh Kayser, C.F. ……………………………….. No Kemper, Ernst ……………………………. No;Nrh; Kirschbaum, F.A. Klittermann & Moog………………………….Nrh; Kloos, Carl Knecht, A. No; Knecht & Co, E. …………………………….Nm; Kober & Co, Wm ……………………………Th; Th;Th; He;Th;Th;Th;Th;Sa;Th;Wf;Ns; Kohl Paul ……………………………………. Nrh Kohlen, Fr.V.D. Koller, G.L. ………………………………….. P Koller, Hugo ………………………………... Nh; He Konejung, Herm ……………………………He; Krebs, Carl Julius Krebs, Pet Dan …………………………….. Nrh; Ho;Nrh Krieger, Wilhelm …………………………… Wf Krom, HCH, Munich ……………………….Ho; Krumm, Gebr ………………………………..Om Krusius, Gebr ………………………………. B;Nrh Kuhrt, Karl Fr. ………………………………. No; Kullenberg, Aug. Lauterjung, H&F ……………………………..Wm; Leupold, Johann ……………………………. Fr; Fr;Fr Leuco or Levco ……………………………… Fr Linder, Carl Linder, Carl & Robert ……………………….Ns Linder, Herm. Sohn Linder & Sohn, Hugo C.W………………….Wf Linder, Otto ………………………………….P; Linder, Hugo ………………………………… Wm;Wm Louper ………………………………………. S; No Luneschloss, P.D. …………………………..P; S; Lungstrass, Peter Lutters & Co, C. …………………………….Ns; Malsch, Aug ………………………………….Th; Malsch, David ………………………………..He; Malsch, Karl Malsch & Ambrom …………………………. Sa; Sa;Sa;Sa;Sa Sa;Sa;Sa;Sa;Th;Mi;Sa; Malsch - Spitzer, Karl ……………………… Mi;Mi;Mi; May & vom Hau ……………………………..Ho;Fr; Mebus, Albert (Amso) Ho; Meis, Carl August Wm; Melcher, Artur Melzer & Feller ………………………………Fr Merten, August ……………………………. S; Ho, Muller, Gottfried …………………………….. Fr; Munch, Joseph …………………………….. Fr;Fr;Bo; Neeff, C. Gustav Neidhardt & Schmidt BO Neptun ………………………………………..No; Neuhaus, Ferd ……………………………... He;No; Ohlinger, Julius …………………………….. Nrh Ohlinger, F. Ed. …………………………….. Wm; Nm;Wm;Nm;Wm; Pack & Sohne, E. ………………………….. Nh; Ns; B; Th; Nm;Nm; No;Nrh;Nrh; He; Nm; Ns;He;Nrh;WmNo;Nm;Sw;No;B;Nm;Th;Wf;Nrh;Nrh;No;;Nm;Nm;Nm; Peres, Daniel ………………………………. Wm;Wm; No;Fr; Perfectum …………………………………… No;Ho; Pfeilring - Muller & Schmidt ……………….. Om;Om;S;S; Plucker Jr, Friedr. ……………………………No; Plumacher & Sohn Puma ……………………………………….. No; No; No Nrh;Nm;Wm;Wm;Wm; Rader, Hugo ………………………………… No Rasspe, Ernst Hugo Rau & Koch …………………………………. Sw Reich, Ehrhardt ............Mi; Remscheid, Cuno …………………………. No;Nrh;Nrh; Reuleaux, J. ………………………………….Wf; Ritter, Kuno …………………………………. Wf; Romer Ernst Romuso Rottgen, Ernst Rother, August ………………………………Nrh Sauer & Sohn, JP ………………………… Bo;Mi;Fr;Fr;Fr;BO;Fr;Mi; Schaaff, CD Scheidt, Eugen ……………………………... P;No Schlieper, C. Ns;He;Wf;P; Schlimbach, Jos …………………………... No; He Schmidt, Rudolf Schmidt Sohn, Carl AG …………………… Wf; Ns;S;S;Nrh; Schmidt & Sohne, J A Schmidt & Sohne, J. Schmitz, Friedr. Aug ……………………… Om; Ns;Om;Om; Schneider, Hermann ………………………. Ns; Schnittert, Abr ……………………………... Wf Schrick, Sohn, E……………………………..P Schuttelhofer, A & Co……………………….Ns; Seilheimer, Paul ……………………………. Ns;Ns Servatius, Hugo …………………………….. S Simon, Otto Steinbach SMF ………………..……………………….. Ho; Ns;Ho;Om;Ns;Ho Spalteneder …………………………………. Ho Spitzer, C. Gustav …………………………. Ns;Wf;No; Steinhoff, Franz ……………………………. Ns; Ns;Ost Stover, Otto Sudd Messerfrabrik ………………………… Fr;Fr;Fr; Tiger …………………………………………. He; Nrh;Nrh;None Tiegel, Karl Tillmann Sohne, Carl ………………………..P; Ns Torley, Gebruder …………………………… Ns Undine ………………………………………. O;Wm;Ho Vitting, Eduard ……………………………… Wf Volker, Adolf …………………………….….. Sa;Sa; Voos, Emil ………………………………….. Ns;Nm Voss, Gustav ………………………………. S;S;Ns Waffenhammer Degendorf ……………..... Ha;BO;BO; WKC ………………………………………... S; Wagner & Lange …………………………... He; P; Wagner, Wilhelm ………………………….. P; Weltersbach, Wilh. …………………………. Wm; Ho;No; Werth, A. Wester & Butz ……………………………… Om;No;No;Om; Weyersberg Soehne, Gottfried ……………..Wm Weyerberg, Gustav Nachf …………………Wf;Wf; Weyersberg, Max …………………………..P;Ho;No; Weyersberg & Co, Paul……………………..No;No;SA Weyersberg, Reinh …………………………Wm Wielputz, Thomas Wingen, Jr, Anton ………………………….. Wm; No; No;No;Wm;No;Wm; Wirth, Gustav ……………………………….. Nm Witte, Ernst Erich Wolf, Joseph ……………………………….. Ho; Ho; Wolfertz, Is Wustof, Carl ………………………………….Nrh; Nm;Nm; Wusthof, Ed ………………………………... He; He; He;Nm;Nrh; Zander, Carl ………………………………… Ns;Ns; No mark 3 This message has been edited. Last edited by: Dave Hohaus, |
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Hello,
today i want show you a very rarity Gau Stamp SA for Sachsen on a crossguard from a Haenel SA Dagger from my collection. I never see befor a Stamp with a big "A". I meet Mr. Thomas Johnson in Stuttgart at the IWB Show 2007, and show him the Dagger. And he sayed the same, its a very rarity Gau stamp on a nice Dagger. Gruß Ralf ( Mikatim) www.dienstdolch.de ![]() |
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Carl Haas - He
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Updated ! Thanks everyone.
Carl Haas ?? Also, I think that SA in the above photo may not be a gau mark. |
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Hello Dave, had one to with the "SA" markings
i thought this was a gau mark. I know John Merling have several with these markings. Why do you think it´s not gau marks? Best, Hakan ![]() |
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That one looked as if it was larger than most. Maybe not. please some more "Sa" gau stamps. So we can see.
Dave |
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Dave, on the Haenels, I've seen that variant larger SA Gau mark on quite a few. Just on Haenels though.
John John Merling vintagetime@yahoo.com MAX Life member OVMS Life member(Ohio Valley Military Society SOS) OGCA Life member(Ohio Gun Collectors Assoc) NRA Life member ![]() |
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Dave it´s the same size on the gau mark as on John´s fantastic Haenel !
Looks a little bigger in that closeup and angle on my photo though! Hakan |
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for your list, i have a Lauterjung marked 'HO' and a Munsch marked 'HE'.
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As I am new to this ,ref the doubt about the Sa mark being a Gau mark,as it is shown on the attached diagram what makes it suspect please?
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map doesnt want to upload, sorry
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Usually the Sa mark has a small letter a instead of a capital letter A. The far left one is SA, the one next to it is Sa.
Here's a picture, I'll have to get a close up at home. John ![]() |
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many thanks, more knowledge to put into the old brain !!
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need to keep this data in view guys.
Could somebody post again one of those handy bar charts with the rarety displays top down?? Thanks, PJ |
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You can add 'W' to the Pack listing
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Here's a Romuso, marked Ho.
Regards Russell |
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Bismarck with "S"
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ivbaust .....WOW...a Bismarck (10/10) with, or without, a Gau Mark is a Rare one!
Congratulations! Dave/dblmed |
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An E&F Horster with a "Ha" Gau stamp.
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Beautiful big Horster Maker mark...Love it Serge!
John |
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Thanks John! Here's one more.
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