This is my last catch. How do You find it ?

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Sorry, but I would not add this one to my collection.

IMO a recent fake.
To my knowledge the RZM never approved or marked brown vertical hangers.

Agreed-MJM

Houston and Mike, what about the belt loop? Regards, Leipzig

Can you guys (Ivbaust,Ron, Houston, Mike) please explain your opinions?

We are here to learn.

Thanks

This hanger is exactly as black brothers :-). Maybe it is not often spoted but miracles happens. Anyway I bought it and when it arrives I will put more detailed pics. First things first I will do is smelling it ... (nose never lies )

Hi Gottlieb,The guy on the German ebay where I think you bought this one,has been selling 1 or 2 a month for the last 2 years.
Also on egun,regards nats

Dave I side with the majority on this one.
Here's why:
1-Normally the RZM designation is accompanied with the maker designation on hangers. So the RZM symbol along with for example,"L2/39". The belt loop has RZM alone- A red flag
2- Usually makers of leather articles for SA/NSKK straps had codes that started with an "L" prefix. This hanger does not.
3- Even "RZM L2/39" is not listed in current references and a known maker: Fishers Reference Vol 1 pg 298
4- In my experience original brown examples are unmarked- This is marked- another red flag.
5- Finally finding a couple of these a month on Ebay from the same source speaks volumes.

I suspect that some do not want to state all these reasons here publicly cause the "maker" is likely to now remove these red flags making it even more difficult to determine authenticity. Before long these may appear with these faults corrected and we will have to show other issues with this.

The snap and buckle are also wrong for this period of stamping-1939. These type fittings can be found on period pieces made in 1933-34-35 but never 1939.The RZM lines in the stamp are also too thick on both pieces. The leather also looks a bit too thick and not the usual color either.

OK You have killed me (You are close to..). Looks like I was cheated but I will treat it like a good lesson. Now I will possess good material to prevent any other mistakes.

Thanks and see You...

Thanks.

I have only ever seen I thought might be OK. Here are pics. I don't own it.

Dave

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Fake?

On an SS belt loop, I would say "OK, but I would like to see it". On an SA loop ... um .. maybe.

Heres another one,nats

http://www.egun.de/market/item...3a89adc8de4d1c1d#img