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Any comments on this beauty welcome, am considering purchase.

 
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Don't. Grip is a replacement. Grip eagle is VERY poorly inserted. There may also be other problems.


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I concur with Houston.
You don't want a ground Rohm dagger in your Chained NSKK. Wink

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I also agree with Houston and Serge but if I may ask, what's wrong with a ground Rohm NSKK ?
These are possible field upgrades that were quite common at the time.
I have seen dozen of field upgrades with non-Eickhorn RZM blades.
Craig, Wittman, Johnson and many others have sold Chained NSKK with ground Rohm blades.

Did a quick search on the web and at the moment there are at least 4 of these "field upgrades" being offered by dealer Bill Shea, Tom Witmann and Brian Madaerer.

Non RZM Chained were for field non-Eickhorn blades and were quite different in design and construction, always made of better quality.
Non RZM chained always have fantastic plating as compared to the cheaper Eickhorn textbook chained.




 
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Here's something that was said couple of years ago on the NSKK field upgrade. Wink

http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/160093573/m/5790047753






 
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Thanks for the input guys, very much appreciated - I would have to agree that the grip eagle is unsightly, at the very least.
Any thoughts on the scabbard/chain, or not enough detail to make a determination ?

Got an SS dagger from the same source as this, and the Forestry, in the appropriate forum here if anyone wants a gander at that.

 
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I see nothing at all wrong with a chain added upgraded standard early piece be it SS, or NSKK. But--I don't think there is any doubt that in the same condition they are worth less than the piece manufactured all at the same time.
In the case of the high leader however it makes no real difference--it seems to be rather a matter of individual preference.


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Not only is the grip eagle poorly inserted but the grip and eagle are the late RZM type and do not belong to or fit the dagger at all.Pictures of the chain are not good enough to tell much of anything.


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quote:
Originally posted by Houston Coates:
I don't think there is any doubt that in the same condition they are worth less than the piece manufactured all at the same time.

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It all depends on who's the buyer............and seller I guess. Wink
To be quite honest with you Houston, I haven't seen any price difference between an Eickhorn RZM blade and an early Maker Marked.
It is like the Chained SS, at one time, the early all nickel silver types were worth a lot more than the mid-period or late type plated Chained SS.
Nowadays, I do not see much difference in price between the early, the mid or the late period types.

In Wittman's price guide (2004), he actually puts the value of a field upgrade NSKK Chained higher than an RZM Eickhorn "textbook" type.

Go figured, I guess it is all in the beholder's eyes. Big Grin

As we all know, Eickhorn did not make the chain for the M36 NSKK. The chain was provided by Assman for the Eickhorn made scabbard and blade.
Most field upgrades ( if not all of them ) didn't have an RZM Assman marked chain, though most were attached to an Eickhorn scabbard.<
Confusing ? Indeed ! Wink

Personally and that's only my opinion, I would prefer to have an early type SA dagger in my M36 NSKK than a late plated type dagger.
Only reasons being, that I always prefered the early SA dagger and that the quality of the non Assman chained was by far superior in quality.
The plating almost looks like solid silver as compared to the other chained NSKK.
Absolutely no comparaison in quality.




 
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The only thing about a field upgrade is that sometimes it is difficult to tell when it was upgraded. All the parts were available. I can remember seeing several non Assmann chains around. Also I believe the all nickel SS 36 as well as the non upgraded plated ones to be worth more than the upgraded ones in the same condition no matter what the asking prices may be,


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