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Hello gents
In the last two weeks I have had the pleasure to read many of the informative post in this forum, and I have learned a lot Smile Sites like this will be a good help for the next generation collectors, and here is my first contribution to the forum.

First out are my pre war K98 bayonets. The Germans bring all of them to Norway during the WW2, and they all have matching numbers of course. Description start from left:
· S/175K, serial number 3527 a
· S/173G, serial number 18
· S/ 283 (1936), serial number 96 d
· Diamant (1937) serial number 1941 c
· Mundlos (1938), serial number 1381 s

Questions and comments are welcome. I do more pictures if needed.

Best regards from Fanejunker

 
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Grips of bakelite and wood.

 
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Naked steel in last picture Smile

 
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Very nice pieces the one is probably S.238 i believe, the early Diamant is very scarse to seen. Congratulation.best regards,Andy
The second with plastic grips is probably a war replacement.
 
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Hi Andy
Thanks for fast reply. You are absolutely right; the S-code are of course 238. My mistake
I do also think the G-coded bayonet is a war replacement. The plastic grips are made in a brighter colour, so it maybe done early in the war?
 
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Continuing the tread with a new line-up. These bandits was made in the early war years, and makers and year marking are:
· F.W.Höller (1939), serial number 1750 c
· Dürkopp (1939), serial number 6141 e
· E.Pack & S (1939), serial number 8669 f
· Berg & Co (1940), serial number 810 b
· J. Sch (1940), serial number 6597 d
· W.K.C (1940), serial number 8507 f

 
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High polishing and dark Bakelite grips seems to be the period’s fashion Smile

 
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Great collection of untouched pieces.best regards,Andy
 
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Very nice fahnenjunker and in a great condition too, i really love those early matching bayos Razz
 
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Thanks for the fine words AndyB and Wiking Smile
Today I will show you the mid and late wars bayonets in my collection. Late war bayonets are difficult to find in my part of the world, but they do pop up from time to time. As all of the bayonet I have in my collection these have also matching numbers. Description start from left:
· 41 cul, serial number 7869 c
· 42 cof, serial number 4016 o
· 42 asw, serial number 7248 t
· 42 asw, serial number 4075 y. This bayonet has a very colourful blade.
· 43 fnj, serial number 8927 n. Welded scabbard and inspection mark WaA310 on the spine. Is this normal?
· 44 agv, serial number 8849 a. Welded scabbard on this one to.

 
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Probably never used?

 
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What is a welded scabbard ?

Dave
 
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Welded scabbard Smile

 
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http://wikingsbajonetcollection.ooz.dk/wikingsbajonetcollection%20agv1944.php

here is my agv also welded Smile i guess it must be a normal thing by agv somehow but they are hardfinders pieces Smile
 
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Great collection you got there Wiking, your 44 dated makes me green Razz Here is a picture of the welding on mine agv. The maker has taking the time to grind the welding. These scabbard are funny items, but does anyone now how many producers use them, and are they all made by Wallmeyer? I have another one and will show it in my next post.

Best regards FJ

 
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Those are some very nice bayonets !!! Smile Smile Smile

While it always possible that there were other producers of welded scabbards, the only one known for sure is Wallmeyer (maker code “can”). With some effort seeming to have been expended in removing the markings, as seen below with most of the “can” being ground off this 1944 dated example by Hörster. FP

 
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Nice piece, looks like untouched, by 42asw in t range could be find both type of grips wood and plastic, the other 42asw with serial number in range y is typical with the red blueing color finish, the 43fnj is probably with additional WaA519 proof on blade, sometimes is located on spine, sometimes near maker or serial number stamp.best regards,Andy
 
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Thanks a lot for the fine input during the thread. You guys have told me several things I did not now of my bayonets. All honour to the helpful members of this forum Smile
Today I will show you my police bayonets and the so-called commercial one. Some of them have been in mine collection for years, but I do not now much about them. Description starts from left:

· Logo with two scales and the letters ACS, serial number 6642. Very faint marking on the spine and it looks like a figure I been heard called starbust??
· Same logo as previous, but this one is placed up side down. No serial number. Very nice Police eagle stamp on spine. Unfortunally is the scabbard reblued on this one. Bubbas workshop is a dangerous place Roll Eyes
· Commercial bayonet with no marking at all. Not even the frog has any marking, and this is just the way I found it. Very strange wood used in the grip also, and I have never seen a similar bayonet before.
· Commercial bayonet only marked W.K.C one the blade. This was one of the first bayonets I’ve got, and because of the cruel finish I named it “Ugly Ghost” Big Grin
· Logo with two scales and the letters AWS. This one has also full maker name Alcoso Solingen. Something has been grinded of the spine before assembling and blueing. . Maybe a police marking? The scabbard is the welded model.

 
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All types of finishing on these one Smile

 
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Fanejunker, Another group of very nice bayonets !!! Smile Smile Smile

You already have it figured out what is what:

*An early “starburst” marked German Police bayonet.
*A later high polish hot (dip) blued Police eagle marked example (While it would be nice to look at in person, I don’t think that it has been reblued. Some of these bayonets and scabbards have a very glossy appearance.)
*The early rust blue example has been sometimes associated with a group like the German Railway. And may even on occasion have an internal Waffenamt marking which can help date it.
*The WKC is what it is, and was probably for a paramilitary group like the police.
*With the same being true for the late Coppel.

There are those who consider all of these prewar and wartime commercials harder to find than the military issue types. And IMO there is some truth to that point of view.

PS: I was never lucky enough to obtain a commercial from Norway myself. And did not really think of it in that context thinking it to be more of a military operation. I can see that I am going to have to re-calibrate my thinking which is a good thing, and thank you for enlightening me. Smile

Congratulations Again, and Thanks for Sharing. Best Regards, FP

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fanejunker:
Great collection you got there Wiking, your 44 dated makes me green Razz Quote

Thanks Big Grin yours not to bad either Roll Eyes
 
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Frogprince say it: I do begin to figure out some of the Mauserbayonets history, but you guys give me more pieces to the puzzle.
The hot (dip) blued police bayonet does not have a smooth surface on the scabbard, and therefore I believed it was reblued. Here is some more picture of it:

 
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The bumps on the scabbard are more visible on this picture. The frog are marked "A.Fischer, Berlin 1939"

 
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Police Eagle stamp on spine

 
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