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Hi! Please help me with this one; I think is a Weimar period police bayonet, correct me if I am wrong. Best regards.

 
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Some early Weimar Republic period Prussian Police bayonets were made in this style. The photos are not good enough to tell if it is one of these early private purchase bayonets or a put-together piece. The press button is missing and the plating is damaged. Can we see a clear photo of the back of the blade where it meets the clamshell and hilt? Is the blade Eickhorn marked by chance?


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Interesting scabbard. Are the silver parts actual fittings that are over the black steel scabbard or are they just painted silver?
 
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Hi! Thanks for the comments, I believe is a painted silver scabbard. Only photos from seller. Best regards.
 
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Here is a similar transitional Weimar Prussian Polizei private purchase bayonet by Eickhorn. This one also has a painted nickeled steel scabbard. These were assembled from existing parts (i.e. this style of scabbard) that were in stock with some newly fabricated parts (i.e. clamshell & grip insignia) as Extrawaffen in the 1920s.

I can't tell if the one you are looking at is period made or put together out of parts postwar but it looks like it may be OK. You have to be comfortable with this type of assembly to buy it and I would not pay too much for it.

Good luck!


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George,

Beautiful piece! What Eick mark is on it, single oval?
 
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Billy,

This one has an older blade with the Eickhorn back to back squirrels logo. I have another Eickhorn clamshell made like this with the painted metal scabbard but it has a separate fitting on the bottom. This one is simply painted black over the nickel.


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G,

With the back to back squirrels it seems the blade is older than I initially thought. I really find that these transitional bayonets are very nice pieces with a lot of character, especially in the variations in form. What type of knot did the Weimar era Polizei wear on these pieces?
 
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The knot on the bayonet is the proper Prussian Portepee. Black leather or cloth strap with silver stripes. Silver crown and ball and a black insert in the bottom.


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G,

Ah thanks, very nice knot too. I had initially thought it was a 3R officer's grade knot.
 
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Billy,

I had to go and look but the other one that I have, made in this manner, is also an Eickhorn with the back to back squirrels. These were made up in the 20s when the thrifty Germans were still making use of new-old-stock (NOS) parts and they were technically prohibited from forging new blades. The second one has been updated by removing the clamshell (leaving the collar in place) and replacing the grip insignia with the 1936 Police eagle.


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The clamshell police bayonet was not made until 1929/30. IMO these are unofficial parts pieces at best.


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