here`s my stag`s.

Another view.1 Pack,2 Eickhorn long models and a Klass single etch.

Klaas etch

Nice pictures, I'll post pictures of mine when I get home. Lets hope others will post pictures, I would love to see what kind of stag was used during the war. Lets see pictures of the fake stag grips also.


TKissinger

Guys,

I love 'em all. I just picked up a late war polizei dress bayonet by Carl Julius Krebs with imitation stag grips and steel scabbard. Will post pics as soon as I'm back from vacation. Keep up the good work.

Here are a few, can you pick out the fake stag.




TKissinger

Terry,

A "stab" in the dark, 2nd from left and 4th from left?

2nd from left is fake, but the rest is real.

TKissinger

Nice staghorn grips guys! I have noticed that the makers tended to put the best figured stag slab on the obverse and the poorer quality slabs on the reverse. Catlog price lists show that the "knobby" fancy figured slabs were extra cost options. These are all distinctively from the period, unlike the postwar grips that are thickly cut and poorly fitted showing no age.

Here is a nice stag grip sawback KS98 by Wingen for your gallery.

George

Very nice collection of stag grips dress bayonets ! Noticed that a lot of them do not have the cut slot on the press stud, does it mean that most of them were made prewar ?

Happy collecting !

Keith

Keith,

I believe that some makers just thought that the press stud without slots made for a cleaner design element. I have seen KS98 shown both with and without slotted press studs in various catalogs.

Here is another example of a stag grip KS98. This one is a miniature that does not have a press stud or a lug slot.

George

The obverse grip panel is nicer than the reverse panel, even on this miniature.

I really like that sawtooth stag.
A combo I never even thought of,let alone see!
Congratulations,ORPO!!!!

aurelia

All the bayonets I have pictured have fuctional stud buttons, some of the stud keys fit better than others.

TKissinger

Thanks George and Terry,

The reason I think these stag grips bayonets were made prewar is because most WWI & Weimar period KS98 were not slotted on the pressed stud. But many of the WWII KS98 with black plastic slabs were slotted (mostly from my observation at eBay)

I checked my (humble ) collection of 5 (3 real stag, 2 imitate). All 3 with real stags were not slotted. But the imitate ones which suppose to be late war were slotted.

That is why I came to such conclusion

Cheers,

Keith

Keith

I mis-understood what you were talking about(slot on stud button), when I get home I'll look at my bayonets more closely and reply.

TK

Gentlemen:
Obviously, a dress bayonet was meant to be worn off duty...not to be attached to a rifle.
Also, consider the amount of work and money saved by the maker, without the addition of slot or button.
In some cases, the dress bayonet can be attached to a rifle but I do not think that was the main reason for manufactoring it.
My thoughts only.
Jax

Keith

Here is what I have observed with my bayonets.

The fake stag bayonet that is pictured(second form left) has a stud button without a slot. It also has the later Eickhorn TM (1941-). I was told that fake stag bayonets were made at the end of the war due to no raw materials. I suppose that old stud buttons could have been in enventory and used.

I have several WKC dress bayonets starting with the dual marked TM(has a stud button w/o slot) but I also see the same kind of button on later made bayonets.

I also have a reprodution WKC catalog that shows both kinds of stud buttons on the same page.

TKissinger

Here are a few of mine, again slotted and unslotted, and until I read this post had not taken any notice. The centre thick slabbed stag is unmarked as is the imitation, the other is an Eickhorn. The smaller trench knife / mini bayo ? is also unmarked but has well worn stag grip plates that I am not sure is general wear or tear or manufactured that way?.
The centre bayo is personally ethced to an individuals flight school training and is named.

Great stuff guys! My favorite is the short bladed stag bayonet model.
Did the Kriegsmarine have a dress bayonet?

Degens,

I am seeing some issues with your small bayonet and your KS98 with rusty screws holding the stag grips. The rivets on the small bayonet do not seem to be factory rivets to me and the stag seems poorly finished, "fat," and new looking. Likewise, the slotted screws on your other bayonet are not what I would expect to see on a KS98 bayonet. I do like the staghorn though. What do the screwbolts (nuts) look like and who is the maker/distributor of this bayonet? Perhaps these grips are an owner enhancement along with the engraving?

Mrfabulous,

The KS98 could be worn by Kriegsmarine personnel but it was not an item of issue. The KS98 bayonet was not worn with the blue uniform but was only worn with the green walking out uniform as I recall. The Troddeln were largely the same as those for the Heer for the Naval Infantry, MG, and Artillery but bayonets and knots were seldom worn and largely discontinued during the war.

Hi guys,

Here's a few pics of a recent pickup, a late war police dress bayonet by Clemen & Jung. Grip plates are wood fashioned to look like stag and the scabbard is black steel. Grip eagle is missing unfortunately but Tom Johnson supplied an exact replacement of a late war zinc type.

Reverse wood grip plate. The pommel feathers are incredibly detailed, particularly considering this is a late war piece.

Top scabbard fitting with some of the steel scabbard showing. Notice the atamped number 41 which also appears on the lower fitting. I dig police pieces in general and this one had some interesting features.