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A common Eickhorn army rig with officers parade belt. All items in nice condition for only $2750! Haaaa Haaaaa!
Really  “If a thief takes your money and you take it back; does that make you also a thief?” |
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Posting this, quoting directly, at Tom Johnson's request:
"Landser, in reference to your comment about our current JRB&M Featured Item, you might be surprised to learn that I personally paid in Euros converted to U.S dollars over $2,400. for this set. Why? Because it was the finest condition Army grouping that I had seen in nearly 50 years of collecting German daggers. My best judgment says that this set will sell for the asking price. Stay tuned. Tom Johnson" |
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So does Tom read this and have others post for him? guess I'm in the dark here. Skip is that you from Crosby? If so I have a question on a F.V. der Kohlen hang tag could you drop me a message at my email listed here? I dont go on the WA forum much anymore. And if this aint you my bad in advance. Someone could tell Tom to get someone to shoot better pics of his stuff thats 4 sale to us everyday folks. Images leave much to be desired.
Bret Van Sant |
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 seems a TAD overpriced!!!...  |
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Bret, Unless there are two Skip's in Crosby (not likely!) I'm your man. Drop me an e-mail at: skipgreenwade@hotmail.com re: the QC tag. Yes, Tom J. checks/reads the forums and will occasionally ask me to put something out for him. |
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Hey glad thats you! you have email
thanks! Bret Van Sant |
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I do not doubt what has been stated but can only observe that Mr. Johnson having paid $2400 for the ensemble is not just surprising but quite astonishing! And I might add for what would seem a very small percentage.
Whilst items in superior condition & from a single source will always attract a premium I had not though the bar to be set so high already. “If a thief takes your money and you take it back; does that make you also a thief?” |
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I find it strange he will not post his own thoughts here . Hell I can't even get him to answer two emails ref a chain link for a 1st mod luft .Must be to low value to deal with .
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when big money talks,,people listen,, |
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Going out on a limb and say thats not an accurate number...Its VERY Nice but even these guys cant do buisness with that margin...If he is paying that amount for Mint items then I am cleaning out the closet and No nasty Euro conversions.
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Tom, By all means, do it! I sold Tom Johnson and Ron Weinand (as a team) over 20 of my daggers as a package deal and can say without reservation that they pay very well for mint/near mint daggers (the best offer I had was from them and they paid on the spot!) |
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Can't blame anyone for turning a profit. But sometimes I think as collectors we shoot ourself in the foot. We sell high(so we think) and buy high,in affect causing dealer(s)to test the water for another fish to bait with even higher prices. A vicious circle. When the asking prices are that high I never bite. But that's me.
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That is an astonishingly tiny margin for a dealer
"until you pin me, George, Festivus is not over!" |
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Some of you amaze me! Once all dealers are greedy and now you don't know how we can make it on this small profit margin!
I don't think there is a proper profit margin for the collector to accept. JMO, Ron Weinand MAX CHARTER MEMBER LIFE MEMBER OVMS |
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i think the general belief among collectors is that the dealers are indeed,greedy,,,and the fact that the purchase price and the resale price is most unusually below the norm for a dealer,that some collectors are rightfully amazed and filled with wonderment,,it doesn't matter if the collectors accept a dealers profit margin or not,,just so the collector feels that he has received fair value in return for his money,,,as for me,i am awaiting for the dealer that sells for less than he paid for it and makes it up on volume...
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With collectibles, where there is a finite supply, tying profit to volume is not possible for any length of time as I see it. Cost of acquisition plus overhead plus reasonable profit should equal price.
Being short on any of the above factors equals going out of business over time in my opinion. Ron Weinand MAX CHARTER MEMBER LIFE MEMBER OVMS |
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while there is a finite supply,there is also a finite interest,,,the dealer who is able to keep his acquisition and overhead costs low,can and should be able to offer items at better values than those that pay much higher prices with very little profit margin,,,Wal-Marts example of "stack 'em deep,sell'em cheap" is probably the best business model of this type of selling philosophy,they are able to buy in massive bulk-quantities and arm-twist their suppliers/manufacturer's into the best possible acquisition costs,plus keeping their overhead expenses to the absolute minimum,insures repeat customer satisfaction and continued support and economic growth..
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This line of reason does not apply to militaria because Wal-Mart sells merchandise that is still being manufactured in bulk...not so with original items in collectible condition (I would question any dealer who is stackin' deep and sellin' cheap!). Also, let me know how much luck you've had arm-twisting a collector with original material in collectible condition into selling mint daggers to you at bargain prices. As for the finite interest, I noted recently in a post on another thread that I've heard the market has finally peaked, that prices have to come down because there are no new collectors, that nobody is going to want this stuff when we're dead and gone. And it's all because of the "greedy dealers" and "collectors with more money than sense" Know what? I've been hearing that for thirty years and it hasn't happened yet! Best, Skip |
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Items on Walmart and Walgreen's shelves are manufactured every day. Not so with TR items, so that makes this discussion invalid.
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Tom, I'm posting this directly from Tom Johnson at his request: “Tom, no need to go out on a limb. If you are in the area, visit our JRB&M office complex in Virginia, and I will show you our records proving my exact purchase price, to the Euro, for the Army set. However, since you don’t accept my statement, you probably will also question our records. The only other alternative that I can offer you is to give you the name and address of the German seller who can certainly verify exactly what I paid for the grouping. The problem with several of you individuals on the forums is that you do not want to believe that a dealer can be truthful. If I post a statement or provide a figure, you can take it to the bank! Whether you realize it or not, there are a good number of dealers in this field who are as honest as anyone whom you will ever meet. You should remember the vast majority of militaria dealers were former militaria collectors who backed into dealing by selling off some of their duplicate pieces to other collectors. You would have a lot stronger forum with many more members if you determined early on who is honest in this field and accept their words as you would want others to accept your own honest statements. Honest dealers, who have, perhaps, spent the better part of their lives trying to guide collectors away from squandering their hard-earned money on reproductions really resent having their word challenged. Paul Ayerst, are you sure that we received your two emails, as we strive to answer not 98%, but 100% of all of our incoming emails regardless of the amount of the purchase.” |
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Tom obviously not I have emailed you twice from your sight even posting my email imbedded in the note.All I want is a long link for a 1st model luft chain and can't figure what is up as there was no throw back it obviously went through. Maybe the old phone call will have to do it then.
PAUL |
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Mr. Johnson,
That anyone would question your honesty or integrity is more than enough to make me sorry I even started this topic. Whilst I have had no personal dealing with JRB&M I have always had the highest regard for your acknowledged expertise & the tremendous asset that you are to the hobby & collector alike. The fact that you have been compelled to attest your honesty on your previous statement is far more astonishing than the price of any militaria! “If a thief takes your money and you take it back; does that make you also a thief?” |
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