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Just picked a Carcano. Did some research on the net.
I believe it to be a Model 38 "Moschetto Cavalleria (Cav.)" Cavalry Carbine.
Marker marked "Gardone Val Trompia(aka Gardone VT)"
It has a carving in the stock of a parachute or a facist crown with FAG 42 under it. I posting a pic of it with the hope of someone shading some light on what it may be and/or it's meaning.
Any help would be appreciated. Johnny

 
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The cartouche is a rearsonal or refurbishment mark. It's a crown. The 42 is for the year of refurbishment 1942 and the FAG is for Gardone VT
 
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Timboo thanks for the input. But the stock appears to be carved by a knife by hand. I'm thinking that was done by a Italian soldier.
 
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It does appear to be hand carved, but it is a a 1942 Gardone VT refurbishment mark, or at least someone's copy of one. There's no doubt about that.

It may be someone's attempt to inhance a cartouche that's almost faded out due to a stock refinish or wear.

Here's a photo of a 1938 Gardone VT refurbishment mark on one of my rifles.

 
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Timboo,
I have carcano post war rebuild. It's marked FAT 1947. Do you know where it was rebuilt? I noticed the M1 carbines at the CMP are marked with FAT in their stocks.
 
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That would be rearsonaled by Terni in 1947.
 
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Timboo, Where can I find some info on this ? Anywhere on the Web? Or what Book? Thanks
 
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timboo
Thanks for the info.
 
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Thanks Badbob
 
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Hey Timboo, I've been searching the Web and have found drips & draps of info supporting what you had stated [some info from forums etc]. You're dead on. Shouldn't of doubted you. Thanks again, Johnny
 
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Hello,
Speaking of Carcanos I have the long rifle version,6.5 cal, and if I am correct the manufactur year was 1916. My question is do you think this rifle is still safe to shoot. The last time I shot it must have been maybe 15 years ago at least,using Norma ammo and military ammo I bought at numrich(!!)arms at least 30 years ago. A number of years ago a local gunsmith told me that as long as the bolt wasn't loose and stuff like that it probably was safe...again that was 15 years ago at least. I've had this gun since I was about 8 years old and used to play army with this when I was a kid which was more than 40 years ago.
Thanks for any help or info.
Duzig(Bill)
 
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Of course the offical response is "have the gun checked by a gunsmith". But if you've shot the rifle before and didn't have any problems, it should be fine now. Check the fired cases for any damage to the case or primer area.
 
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Hello,
Timboo I thank you for your reply and appreciate your info. To me here's a funny little story regarding my rifle. As I said I used to play army with my friends and carry around the carcano. One day a policeman stopped me in the area where we were playing army and asked me all about the gun, etc,where I got it, where I lived etc. I told him that the firing pin was broken(which it was), where I got it etc. At the time being a little kid I just thought that the cop was being friendly and interested in the rifle. LOL,didn't realize till later years that he wasn't interested in the rifle,he was wondering what a kid is doing running around with a real rifle that was a good 2 ft higher than him. Again Timboo thanks for the info.
Duzig(Bill)
 
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