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I recently bought a Japanese sword, and was told it is 17th century. It is 60cm long so
presume its a Wakazachi.
Anyway the tang is signed. Can anyone here translate it? Does the signature look real, as i have heard they are faked?

Thanks

Lewis

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Lewis-
From the basics I can see from your photo, the era of the blade appears to be correct. However, you can greatly assist me by posting the signature right side up. It is a little difficult for a non Japanese to read kanji while standing on his head. I can make out 70% but wish to give you an accurate translation and information.
Bob


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Sorry Bob, i'm new to this!

Posted again the right way.

I have been told it says:

"Echizen ju Hyaga (no) Kami Fujiwara Sadatsugu"

and that there are two of these in "hawleys index" (?)

SAD 747 rating 30 (!) worked around 1661(Kanbun era)
SAD 748 rating 15 worked around 1688(Genroku era)

Though this doesnt mean alot to me.

Also someone is questioning whether the signature is real or not.
Perhaps you could give your opinions on it?

Thank again.

Lewis

 
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The official Japanese sword dictionary, "Nihonto Meikan," lists a third generation of this group working in the enroku Period starting in 1684. His work is more obscure and without a control example and overall picture of the blade, it is difficult to judge possibly which generation of Sadatsugu made this piece. However, from the nakago shape, I would suggest either 2nd or 3rd generation. The signature is strong and firmly cut leading me to the conclusion that this is an original signature.
Bob


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Bob, thank you again for your expert opinion on the sword. I'm glad to hear you think the signature is genuine.
Also interesting to hear there is a third generation.
I have taken some more pictures of the blade for you to look at. Hope these are ok.

Thanks again!

Lewis

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Blade lower.

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Blade mid.

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Blade tip

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A saya come with the blade, and though not in brilliant condition is quite nice. It has small shells inlaid into it.

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A close up on the shell.

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Lewis-
From the images, it appears you have a nice blade. It also appears that the saya is in good condition. The shape to me indicates a 1670's-80's form of blade. However, I am far from the last word on this piece. If you are interested in restoring this piece, you have a good foundation with the saya and also, the blade appears to be without flaws and a candidate for polish. The key is to find a recognized restorer. Beware of the many self proclaimed esxpert restorers that lurk outside of Japan. Big egos and zero ability! If you need help in this field, email me.
Bob


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Thank you again for the help Bob. Its very nice of you to give your opinion and knowledge.
I do hope to restore/polish eventually. However i will soon be paying for the polish of my grandfathers sword (i spoke to you about this some time ago), so will be short of cash for the time being!
I will post pictures of my grandfathers sword once i get it, looking forward to seeing it myself!
Thank you again, once i come to restoring this new one, i will certainly email you for advice.
Thanks

Lewis
 
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I too like this blade great harmon pattern. Check out www.japaneseswords.com for info on polishing.
 
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Try www.japanesesword.com I added the s by mistake.
 
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Thanks Dow, i will check them out.
 
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