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hello can you help me to know if this daggeris good or copies because I look at everywhere and I do not find any with eickhorn in marking, only of the RZM.
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That is normal, there were only 2 makers of this rare dagger: Eickhorn and Hörster, but you will only find their RZM marks on these daggers: RZM M7-66 ans RZM M7-36.
Be careful if you want to buy, there are many abvious fakes but also some very good ones. Best greetings, Herman "Het leven is een strijd!" |
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Sorry -that is not true. There are a very few with the Eickhorn TM
MAX & OVMS Life Member, MAX Bd. of Experts. GDC Platinum Dealer. Collector since 1955. |
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Here's a thread on a maker marked Eickhorn which seemed to be viewed as a fake.
http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/427101702/...260073394#5260073394 It would be interesting if you could post some good, large and clear closeups of yours. Regards Russell |
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I don't own one but have seen some originals. The one in the thread has not been proven to be a fake. These are believed to be early pieces-possibly prototypes. ANY Eickhorn HJ leader is extremely rare.
MAX & OVMS Life Member, MAX Bd. of Experts. GDC Platinum Dealer. Collector since 1955. |
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The one in the thread has not been proven to be a fake.
Correct Houston, which is why I said 'seemed to be viewed as a fake". It would be most interesting to explore this further, and hopefully get some good pics of thor62's example for a comparison. Regards Russell |
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Posting 4 pics for thor62. Waiting on closer pics of the maker mark, scabbard eagle and motto.
Regards Russell |
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From these pics, I notice a different angle of the rope pattern on the upper scabbard fitting on the reverse side, and smooth leather on the scabbard. Also the angles of the lines on the pommel.
Regards Russell |
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Beneath other features the overlaping border of the pommel and the shape of the grip are well known features for fakes.
Regards, wotan, gd.c-b#105 "Never look for sqare eggs" as an owner of an original FHH-dagger uses to say. |
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Maker detail.
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I have never seen an Eickhorn squirrel on an original HJ Leader yet, but I believe a senior like Houston.
If anyone has an unquestionable example to show, it would be very educative. Best greetings, Herman "Het leven is een strijd!" |
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Here's the maker mark of one that was on Eban years ago.
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And the pommel.
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There is one in one of the older textbooks. Belonged to then well known collector J J Gillespie (sp)I believe Jason has one as well.
MAX & OVMS Life Member, MAX Bd. of Experts. GDC Platinum Dealer. Collector since 1955. |
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I had one of the Eichorn trademark HJ Leaders walk into one of my hotel buys around 12 years ago, i was not able to buy it. It also had a soft leather scabbard, there was no doubt about it being original.
thanks Bob robert grant |
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