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These hangers are currently for sale on ebay and since I'd never seen a set in the original box I thought others might enjoy it.

I have seen much these hangers on different shows .I think they are fakes.

They are certainly fakes. I might buy a set, just to put them in Reproduction Recognition. They can be found at the same table with a myraid of other fake items - bagged portepees, fake medals, etc.

If they are configurationally correct in all respects I think I would rather have one of these than some ripped up frizzed set that looks like its been used by the kids for a tug-a-war game. I'm sure there are many collectors out there proud of their nice looking hangers that are actually postwar assembled but they don't know that.

Manfred you truly march to the beat of a different drummer....

Skyline: It may or may not surprise you, but I'm not alone in that march by a longshot. Many collectors just wont admit it, claim ignorance, or just plain don't know it. You don't know how many requests I get to 'fix an item to make it look right', pertaining to accoutrements. Some of these items have even successfully re-entered the market as 'originals'. Next time you see these hangers again they may be sold slightly 'antiqued' as an original, and the buyer would be just too eager to believe it.

reminds me alot to the lately often seen Nahkampfspangen box

Good advice from the sages of the hobby. Buy the dagger, not the story.

Mark

Mark: you are so right. Most of the time the 'story' is second hand anyway and thus, worth about as much as a cuup of second hand coffee.

IMO originality of accoutrements is irrelevant unless they were originally attached to the particular sword or dagger. If an accoutrement is purchased seperately to dress up a dagger for display then I would want the best looking accoutrement I can find as long as it is configurationally correct. Whenever I purchased a set of hangers where the cloth was damaged it was either repaired or replaced. Bear in mind that accoutrements were intended to enhance and not degrade a sword or dagger. I leave the origiality hassle to those who specialize in collecting accoutrements.

Hello everyone.heres another boxed set,regards nats
http://cgi.ebay.de/WH-Dolchgehaenge-in-originaler-Schac...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This auction has a real set of hangers with the Fake box.

Guys, i bought a set of these about 6 months ago, im not so sure there fake (could be) the box staples have brown rust on them and if the hangers are fake... look out. there really really good

I was told (i know I know) they were old stock that was found over in Germany

I'm just not certain about these. The ones I have seen seem to be correct in every way-right down to the old flat type box staples that -as far as I know are no longer available. There are quite a few sets on the market-they are new like- all the ones I have seen are the plain type-not deluxe. I wonder if anyone really KNOWS? If there were only a couple I don't think they would be questioned. If everything is fake here-then-with age it is going to be impossible to tell anymore. Anyone black light these?

The construction is correct and the box looks period to me. Believe it or not, it would be possible to find a shipper case full of these in Germany leftover from the war and there could be a lot more than a few boxed examples.
Ron Weinand
Weinand Militaria

Then check out under some tables in Europe, there will be more boxes. Why you find them actualy yet so often offered and perhaps over in Europe? I even don´t like the printing on all these boxes.

I do not like the boxes as the look for me is the same as the fake dagger bags which are currently around. At a close look the printing is not as exact as what I am used to see compared e.g. original paper bags. When I will see one at an upcoming show I will check them with blacklight. Perhaps one of you is faster or has this done already?
My observations also let me learn that the lastest "finds" of "stored, unissued" items (remember e.g. the VOOS olimpia youth knife) always were at least highly suspicious and led to sources of usually heavily faked items.