a new find... opinions please before i part with any cash...and if ok .. how much should i be parting with ??

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That one was on Ebay.

it was.... i was highest bidder when it was pulled ..and offered 1st refusal.

Blade has been buffed and scabbard should be blued and appears to be painted black (a repaint).
Ron Weinand
Weinand Militaria

In my opinion the blade has not been buffed. The scabbard may or may not be a period repaint. Even so, if you are talking about a real SS Rohm, the scabbard plays a minor role in the value. My guess as to value...? It's worth more than what you're willing to pay for it.

Skyline, it is highly obvious this blade has been on a polishing wheel. You can see the small scratches in a pattern, especailly on the edges of the lettering in the TM and near the motto. This is only created by a wheel and not the nice crossgraining you see on original blades. While crossgraining is still present, the surface polish pattern is evident.
Ron Weinand
Weinand Militaria

No... I don't think it's highly obvious. I would have to personally inspect the piece to be sure. If it has been buffed, it was very light for the crossgraining to have survived. It is very possible that this was done at the factory, as it appears the name removal was professionally done. I have seen this light buffing done on ground SA Rohms that were returned to the factory. Nonetheless... buffing or not... SS partial Rohms are very scarce. They aren't making any more originals... you know?

I've now puchased the dagger.
will post some better pics when it arrives.

May I ask a silly question,

Haven't these prime roehm blades been polished? If so the blade has been cross grained after removing the signature.

Does re cross graining mean factory removing?

If the blade was cross grained in the beginning, how should it look after removing the signature, recto/verso. Was there a new cross graining done all over the blade on both sides, sorry, it's difficult to see from the pics for me.

Another remark. It may very well be my screen again, it seems to me that the maker's logo is slightly different in etching from the inscription. The maker logo and motto look alike to me. Again, I'm not good at all on screen watching.

I don't want to criticise in a matter which I don't know, som please forgive if I'm wrong

I think that the blade has not only been buffed but buffed with a wheel containing some light grinding compound.

- Those horizontal scratches are NOT the original crossgraining. It just does not look like that. They look like someone used emory paper, but they are too regular so they must have been the result of a power wheel. They did the front of the blade too. (?)

- The softening of the edges of the dedication and trademark are another indication of buffing. See how the edges shine a little.

I would also guess that the scabbard is not original to the piece. From what I see, the lower scabbard fitting is perhaps peeling and those high domehead screws sure look like RZM-era screws to me.

And contrary to some opinions, the condition of the scabbard plays a significant role in the value of a SS Rohm dagger.

Dave

Thank you Dave! I'm glad that someone else sees this dagger in the same light as I do. It is highly obvious it has been on a buffer. Your comments are right on the mark.
Ron Weinand
Weinand Militaria

Mr. Weinand... not "highly obvious" unless your definition of "highly obvious" differs from the rest of the planet. Perhaps you meant to say "highly suspect". These photos are *not enough* for a conclusive judgment. Mr. Hohaus, your observation about the scabbard screws is well taken. I would be interested to hear what your definition of "significant" is when it comes to value of an SS partial Rohm. There are not that many around. I don't think you can value them the same as your garden variety SS dagger.

Hopefully stirnpanzer will weigh in with more photos as he promised.

Skyline, me thinks thou do protest too much.

I can duplicate those scratches(which is not crosssgraining) shown on the blade in Pic. 7 above using emery cloth with about 10 minutes work. That's exactly what the blade would look like when I was done. If there's anyone on the Forum that doesn't believe this just send me your blade and I'll be glad to do this for you!
Jim