i full rohm has been listed on ebay with a buy it now price of $30,000 from the photo ,of the blade, it appears to belong to a forum member
are they really fetching anywhere near that price?

Please post a link to this dagger .... I searched EBAY US and EBAY UK and could not locate it.

If its an SA Rohm its way overpriced ..... and if its an SS Rohm its still way overpriced in my opinion .... Others may think differently -

Gordon

Appears to belong to a forum member? Probably the photo belongs to a forum member Although I can't find it either - eban probably nailed it - 30 G price tag no doubt brought some eban police scrutiny.

I saw the listing while it was still active.
I asked for photos and seller replied. It is the same "war damaged" dagger with the "Big Red 1" of "FullRohmOwner".

-serge-

so what is this full rohm with a stained blade and a repaired grip worth?

I also requested pix of this dagger. For some reason, the photos of the inscription side of the blade were blocked by my computer protection program as dangerous...I am unsure why that should be the case. So, I never saw the Rohm inscription at all. I had hoped to compare it to mine, although I am certainly no authority in such matters...I defer to you gentlemen and your extensive knowledge of these things. At any rate, the pix I saw were quite large and difficult to view in a meaningful way. The "BIG RED 1" painted insignia did appear, but was a bit blurry...it seemed to show a significant amout of wear to the paint.

A. There is no stain on the blade - where did that comment come from?

B. The dagger has been hand inspected by Thomas Wittmann and authenticated. His handwritten dedication in his SS book to me mentions the dagger.

C. T.W. repaired the handle with a small donor piece from another SS grip of the same period. This was the top 1/5th of the grip.

D. The "Big Red One" on the scabbard is a DECAL - not paint. My father was part of The First Infantry Division. The decal was scratched over the years on the red area. This decal easily scratches off but Tom advised leaving it on as it further authenticates the dagger.

E. I have a letter of commendation from dad's 201 file that places him in Munich in 1947 in Surplus Liquidation.

When someone questions something - that's fair. But to make specific comments that are flat wrong is unfair.

Ironic how the listing was pulled within 12 hours of this posting.

from the photo you have put on this forum there is staining on the blade
the grip had far more then 1/5 replaced again from looking at your photos
the reason your dagger was removed from ebay was that they do not allow nazi items on its site it had nothing to do with this forum!

Gentlemen, I don't see what the problem is here. This exact piece has been gone over on more than one thread previously, warts and all. Even the possibility of restoration work has been discussed. So there are no surprises or malfeasance involved- it's not like he's peddling Adolf's toe nail clippings.

As for the buy-it-now price, I'm guessing this is just a marketing ploy. Ask 30, take 15, and the buyer thinks he made out like a bandit. This sort of thing isn't anything new.

Even so, in the opinion of many it's still overpriced. He can do that if he wants to, just like he can use it to dig turnips if that's what makes him happy. Either way, he's not hurting anyone. Besides, any savvy collector knows that the next step is to offer a more reasonable figure. If that fails then walk away. Simple, no?

RevY,
You are spot on with every comment. Thank you for stating what I thought would be obvious to any reader / visitor to the ebay site.
I wanted to avoid tire kickers so I asked a high initial bid price and indicated a very, very high Buy It Now price in the hope of finding someone with Euros who was ready to but it without waiting.
I have never misrepresented this dagger in any way. Though Wittmann is the only collector who has seen it I am sure there are at least a few members with whom I have had communication or business (JR, Craig) that would place a high level of trust in my description.

I agree with Rev's assessment here.

The "problem" I think the "community" is having with it is the "asking" price. Way over the top. But that's the sellers right to ask whatever he wants. It's clear he is really not interested in really selling the piece unless he by some miracle gets the "Monster Ticket" for it.
I see dreamers all day trying to get 2 years ago prices on their homes hoping that someone will "Fall in Love" with it. The only problem they and this seller have is that buyers can go anywhere else and buy it for less. Nothing wrong with "wishing" IMO.

-serge-

So what is this dagger worth ?

I have watched this forum like many others go from top notch to horse_ _ _ _ in little over 2 years. The fall is absolutely astounding but the reasons painfully evident by many of the posts and comments similiar to the thread here. Now I do not want to insult anyone but what good can come of what is done here. FullRohmowner has done NOTHING wrong. If you want to educate him on the current market value of daggers than PM him. Do not embarass by posting here. He hasn't perpetrated any fraud or committed any untoward act. For God's sake guys give a chap a break. I do not know him and have never met him or even conversed with him in any manner but some of you guys have real gonads when behind a keypad. This together with some of the replies on the other thread are just childish. I would love to have an SS Rohm in any condition, hell a decent chained would have thrilled me. This isn't a game of mine is bigger than yours.Who the heck has been insulted or injured by any of what he has posted. Time to start acting like men again boys, if at all possible. A little humility and a few manners. cheers to all.

Truly guys in this wonderful place we live it's not the government, or a forum or any one person who decides what prices are.
It is the market.
If 30k is too much the dagger won't sell, end of story.
Anyone can ask what ever price they want they want.
Very few examples of these rare daggers hit the market every year and most are sold through private emails and phone calls.
IMHO it is difficult for anyone to know what market really is.

well said sellick and paul, whats the big deal?? if its overpriced it wont sell end of story, no point in pulling your pudding over it,and no before you ask i have not got one , but one day i will , and i will pay what i need to pay to get what i want, if it takes me 5 years to afford one what will the cost be to me then !!!!

if an item is put up for public sale is it really wrong to ask if its worth the asking price?
or when an item sells should we not talk about the selling price?
the seller of this rohm has asked this forum on more then one occasion how much his dagger was worth and should it be restored. twice i offered to sell him a scruffy ground rohm eickhorn with a good grip at least it would now have an original not heavly restored one. so i dont think its wrong to ask questions back

Can we stop flogging this dead horse please?
nick2.Or is it the last word you want?
Seiler (Yank in UK)

nickn2, i see where youre coming from , but if its been a family thing brought back from ww2 it puts a diffrent perspective on it, we trade things willey nilley, who gives a f---- who owned them , unless its attributed, if some body feels that the value is higher because of the personal attachment then thats fine by me , we would all do the same ......

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Originally posted by nickn2: ...twice i offered to sell him a scruffy ground rohm eickhorn with a good grip at least it would now have an original not heavly restored one.

So you offered your assistance in the form of advice and materials? And then he didn't even listen, did he? Most people just forget about it and move on.

sorry rev i didnt give a dam that he didnt buy my dagger to repair his i hadnt even remembered my offer until i read all previous threads
i saw a dagger on ebay with an asking price of $30,000 i asked the forum its oppinion of this price .I DID NOT KNOW WHO THIS DAGGER BELONGED TO but i believed it had been discussed on this forum before. if this it not a legitimate question for this forum what is ???
we often discuss price condition and originality
what other questions are there?
seiler
i do not want the last word but

Dead Horse !

Dave