This dagger was on Ebay but the auction was ended. Some of you may have been following it. It has the very early pointy winged eagle and is a full Rohm Eickhorn. It also has all kinds of condition problems. Looks like someone took a hammer to the scabbard shell... I've never seen one so dented. I'm not sure that the dagger can even be inserted. The scabbard fittings look surprisingly good. The blade has surface rust and corrosion, and the very tip is broken off. It has the early motto with the "A" in Alles. Given the rarity of this dagger what do you think the value is considering the condition?

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What about this trademark? Doesn't look like the normal Eickhorn.

Someone spoke about this dagger in an earlier topic. It is a unique piece, because it is the only full Röhm SA "Christmas dagger" that was ever seen by a member (dealer?) but not bought because of the bad condition and broken tip, the member (dealer?) later regretted not to have bought it...

I have a similar Christmas SA ground Röhm with this early "C.E." Carl Eickhorn trademark.

Very interesting post, thanks!

Best greetings,

Herman

What is the sellers current asking price?

The seller is taking bids. I would bid a fair price if I could get an idea of its value.

Excuse my ignorance as a newbie, but what is a Christmas SA ?

Do a search of the forum archives. There a number of threads on Christmas daggers. They are early prototype SA's.

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Originally posted by Skyline Drive:
The seller is taking bids. I would bid a fair price if I could get an idea of its value.

Skyline... I don't think there is an answer to this question other than the obvious... whatever you're willing to pay...

You have good knowledge... you know what feels comfortable and what doesn't.

The value: I would say that its rarety makes this piece (full Röhm) priceless, of course there is the condition that makes it less attractive as a collectable dagger.
There is also the historical value: let's not forget that the "Christmas" SA dagger is the mother of all 3R daggers: the first that the Nazis ever let made in extremely small quantities of course... maybe the rarest dagger of all?
It belongs in a museum in my opinion!

Best greetings,

Herman

Oh yess, in case anyone would wonder: I have nothing to do with the sale of this dagger.

Actually, I would like to know the E-Bay objectnumber, so I can see who is selling it.

Best greetings,

Herman

I know of one other one over in Germany I am waiting since years to get this one anyday but the day will come.

Mike very interesting.
Thanks for sharing!

Very interesting.

A small correction - There two full Rohm prototypes known in the US. An EP&S daggers known in Colorado that was shown at 2006 MAX and one with a broken tip but in good condition from the Julian Millestone (sp?) collection. There is also a full Rohm Eickhorn shown in a French Reference book about 25 years old and it is not beat up.

The one pictured above could well be the real thing. I hope that better pictures will surface. If anyone gets some, I would appreciate copies and I will NOT post or share them.

Value ? As much as the owner can get , but seriously, there is no precedent. A lot more needs to be known about condition.

Dave

PS - although I do not think this is case, beware as the early "A" SA/NSKK daggers are being faked as we discuss this. All of the better fakes are from Europe.

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