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Photos of this dagger will be posted soon by a friendly reader. I am grateful for his assistance.

I have been sent 18 images. They have all been resized and some have been cropped as needed. I will refrain from posting everything as I think some of the photos are repetitious, but if you need further details I'll see what I can do. Fasten your seatbelts, here we go.

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here are the photos to posted of your dagger it shows quite bad staining on the blade and a very badly damaged grip which is missing the ss button so to say only 1/5th was repaired is silly
was a genuine button used in the restoration or a copy?

nickn
I was certain you would be the first to respond as you are typically the one who likes to throw his worthless two cents in.
Measure the grip in the photo. The damaged area is LESS THAN 1/5th - Yes or No?
Absolutely period correct Rune - but don't believe me - call Wittmann.
What you call stain is the absolutely original aging of the blade before I ever touched it with soft, non abrasive metal polish as recommended on this site.
There is no stain - what the hell are you talking about?
Why haven't you posted photos of the blade since I cleaned it. The photos you show are of the blade untouched for over 50 years.
You are well aware that photos angles and lighting often display marks and lines far worse than they actually are.

But I guess you know more than Wittmann.

for 2 years now you have been asking this forum "how much is my dagger worth"
you have said in the past that you have been offered $19,000 my advice is take the money
as it will never be anything other then a heavily restored example
i have high lighted the stains

i do not know more then wittmann
but i do know this is not a $15,000 dagger

With this dagger one is paying for the blade and in this case, the blade in question is not yet worth $15,000 unless you can sell it for that price. I would think that a fair market value on a blade in this condition would be between $6,500 and $8000.00. I will wait to be corrected of course.cheers, Ryan

I had an offer through Mr. Wittmann (on consignment) last year for $18K. I would have netted less after his commission of course. I have also had three dealers tell me they would have no problem getting $15K for it. I do not know who the buyer(s) were / are but the numbers I have related to you are accurate. I have no reason to fabricate this information.
This was last year. I did not sell it at that time thinking it would increase in value further as the SAs did at that time.
Yes, I am sure some believe I should have "jumped" at the $18K offer. But it cost me nothing to say, "No thank you" and simply hold onto it.
Ryan, though I disagree with your value estimate range for the reason(s) stated above, I appreciate the fair way you express your opinion. And cheers to you!

The photos that nickn2 has posted and circled with repeated claims of "stains" accurately depict the condition of the blade over a year ago. However, there has never been any stain on the blade. Any amateur can readily see the spider oxidation that occurs with time on metal. The small amount of dirt and rust in this spidering wiped away with non abrasive polish (lightly wiped with the cross grain). What remains is a grayish and much lighter spidering effect that I am certain most readers of this forum have commonly seen.
I find it educational to read and ask questions rather than assume and make false statements.

i am sorry they are rust stains likely from finger prints
i think you calling them spider rust is worse then me saying stains as spider rusts eat into the metal
i am sure most of the stains on your blade could be removed without harm

Didn't Gailen sell a nice SS full Rohm with vertical hanger last year for $15,000?

-serge-

nickn2,
You are correct in that most appear to be from finger prints - likely mine and my brothers when we were kids horsing around with dad's WWII stuff. The blade has cleaned up nicely by hand. If I could take decent photos (you probably saw how blurry they were on the ebay listing) I think you'd be surprise at how good it looks. Frankly, I was afraid to touch it for over a year until I learned the proper polish to use and the way to polish a cross grain blade.

$18,000 for THAT dagger? Somebody is smokin' rope.

I honestly can't see any reason why that one should pass the $7,000 mark and I think I am being generous at that.

I have been doing this a looong time and that one is rough and, in my personal opinion and with NO intention to cause ill feelings, it will never see that $18,000 unless it is proven to be Himmler's own dagger.

This must be a joke thread? The one I own is on pages 70-71 of Whittmann's SS book. It must be now worth $35,000+++ as it is the ONLY one to be traced to a DKiG winner. Maybe I am rich and don't realize it? What am I missing here?

Mark

You're looking at photos of a dagger that had not even been wiped with a cloth for 60 years. Now hand polished with paperwork from dad's 201 file, hand inspected by TW, personal dedication in the SS book I purchased from him referencing the dagger, original grip repaired (and with decent photos that show 90% bluing on the scabbard)the piece looks very nice.
Looking at the old photos posted here I would agree it would not draw that kind of money. But even at that time I was offered $10K for it.
As Dave H. often says - "I'd really need to do a hands on inspection". And that is exactly what TW did.

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Mark, I don't think your missing a thing.

I think "FullRohmowner" missed out on 18K! And IMO will not come close to be repeated again.

-serge-

Sorry but I'm having real trouble accepting this, in the last 12 months I've had the opportunity to purchase at least 3 full SS Rohms in excellent condition - with blades at least as good as this example, fitted with perfect handles (either no chips or very minimal) and good clean scabbards...none was priced above £8,500..that is $17,000...they were priced from £6,000 (usd 12,000) and up...and condition wise they were all far superior to the example shown here.

If I owned this piece and was offered usd 10,000 I'd have sold straight off and danced all the way to the bank, to be offered usd 18,000 would be a dream - perhaps now is the time for me to market my collection ??

And before you ask, I have been collecting for 20 years, so I do have a vague idea of what I'm talking about.

No disrespect but I feel a dose of reality is called for here.

Jonathan

It's no longer necessary for me to chime in to restate history and repeat what I have already posted. I must admit it does bother me that some would think I am making this up. But in the end I guess it doesn't really matter. If you do not care to believe me - that is your choice.