Can you help? I picked up these two Eagles with a bunch of other stuff. What are they and are they real?

Many thanks for your help

The white on black one looks unissued. The gold on black has been taken off a uniform ans shows signs of wear as you can see.

and the backs

top eagle looks bad to me,not enough detail to the wreath and other things,,bottom eagle fine...

Thanks for the info on the top eagle. What is the bottom one? Is it DRL?

I would have the SS Eagle checked out on WAF just to make sure ,as the other stuff you have posted looks real . Rob

Rob, Thanks for the advice. It is the only thing in a box of stuff that has raised any red flags. WAF? Do you mean Wehrmacht-Awards Forum Perhaps?

bottom eagle is a DRL sports eagle...

the bird above looks like an original to,otherwise a good kopie!.Bad kopies do have a lot off tiny 'ropes' on the backside,originals
doesn't have that becuase it's woven correctly.....

Thanks for your comments. The experts on this site are wonderful and as a novice I have learned a lot.

regards

James

great pic by the way. It is so useful to see how such items were worn. What is so extraordinary is that this eagle came in a box of stuff from an old guy. The eagle was being used as padding for a bayonet that was loose in it's scabbard. the faint brown mark you can see bottom left on the rear of the eagle is a rust spot from the bayo. I nearly threw it away as a peice of old cloth wadding!!!

The SS cap eagle looks good..I once had a roll of 9 !