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i was given this brocken no maker mark ss blade by the soldier who took it from a factory floor at the end of the war he said the floor was covered in brocken blades and other dagger parts he said several were still in vices ,which is how the blades were brocken by bending, unfortunately he could not remember were the factory was
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Is there a maker mark on the back of the blade?
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SD, he stated above no-maker.
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Ah so he did. My bad. It's a shame that the "M" in Meine is gone but I'm pretty sure I know exactly what it looked like... The upper flair has a variation of Fraktur with two points rather than one. The "it ain't textbook so it must be a fake" crowd will tell you it's wrong, but there were many variations used during the Third Reich. Thanks for sharing.
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i have 2 m7/29 marked 33`s with the same "flower" forge mark and a 36
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I have seen 2 941 code SS daggers daggers 37 with that seven dot flower.
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Very similar to the Boker pattern etch. I doubt this one had the funky fluted "M", only ever seen that "variation" on dubious and Spanish copies. It must have been a tough job snapping that blade in two, interesting find...
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The seven circles mark is a well known mark on NPEA Daggers and, I believe, used by Horster at different times. It is also found on early Horster marked SA Daggers.
Ron Weinand Weinand Militaria MAX CHARTER MEMBER LIFE MEMBER OVMS |
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you can see the crystalian structure where it was bent to snap it
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crustaline even!
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i will try again
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Red I think you apparently have only handled Spanish copies. The etch shown above matches this one perfectly right down to the fluted bottoms of the r's and e's.  |
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As I have said before, there were many variations of Fraktur used during the Third Reich. Just because someone learned calligraphy from a German instructor does not him an expert. However, it does qualify him for the "it ain't textbook so it must be wrong" crowd. Red... are you a charter member?
 Look at the fluted "N" in Fraktur script in the period poster below. This one was approved by AH himself. Perhaps he didn't know it was wrong?  |
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Over the years I’ve seen a fair number of blade tips broken off because of what I assumed was lower steel quality and (possibly) improper heat treatment. With some otherwise very good looking blades being decidedly less than optimal in terms of quality. But a blade broken in two is unusual!
 As an aside, while I don’t doubt that factories were littered with all sorts of things at the end of the war. Because dagger production had ceased years earlier as nonessential to the war effort. I would imagine that what the finder actually saw evidence of being worked on in the factories were bayonets or possibly fighting knives. FP |
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Yep, that's the one with the "fluted" M. I would be very interested in seeing the motto Skyline shows on a known period SS blade.
I have encountered this style only on repros, both the crude Spanish ones, and more recently on CZ copies. I have some pics archived at home which I'll post tomorrow for comparison. In the mean time, anyone have a SS blade which has the same capital "M" as Skylines? Red |
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I do not own that dagger. Here are some photos of an identical dagger sold by Bill Shea. Sorry they are small.
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