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I have purchased this ring . What are u say about : original or fake ?

 
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Not original.
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Looks like a RZM mark; the organization had nothing to do with private purchase rings. Also, rings with stamps on the OUTSIDE make no sense. Why make something to wear "for looks", then put some big old, usually crooked, stamps where they can be seen?
 
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Don't know if it's an RZM mark may be part of the worn floral pattern.Why is it not original,I thought "not original" with no explanation was going to end with the "new"code?? Cool


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Somebody have this original ring , i whant do compare them
I think that is original because :The ring is very strongly damaged{injured}, has some cracks.
What for the seller so to spoil a ring if it is enough of it{him} to make simply worn{defamed}.
Stamps could be put to my opinion later.

 
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oops, sorry!
As noted, it's got a fake and inappropriate RZM mark, the markings are on the outside, and the casting seam inside along with the pitting would seem to indicate that the quality is certainly lacking.
Erich
 
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Evgeniy-- You should have bought a new one that hasn't been aged. It looks nicer this way.

http://seifukuwatch.kir.jp/english_no7.htm

Sorry, but a fake. Wink
 
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Thanks for that link sdkfz. It has answered a few other questions for me! Cool
 
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E. , For now this is the only photo I can get..Please compare with your 2nd. photo posted...

 
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I agree with the other members, it is a fake. NO ring should be RZM marked.. Here is a clear crisp photo of the fake mark that has been appearing on rings...

 
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This article is a few years old. East Europe started reproducing Nazi rings right after the break up of the USSR. Rings made in 1991 and worn for a few years look very much as some of the originals! , G.


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from the English translation of Pravda. article written by Anatoly Filatov.

07/10/2003 17:25
Jewelry companies produce a wide range of rings for men

It is generally believed that men go to jewelry shops to please their women. However, things are changing at present - the modern jewelry industry produces a wide variety of men's jewelry, so men can go to jewelry shops to please themselves too.

A big ring with a big diamond is not an indication of manhood anymore. Men's rings have become more elegant, they are strict, but not plain. Rock music fans wear scorpion, eagle, skull shaped rings. A young man can always find something made of silver, without any jewels. There are a lot of animal shaped rings, as well as the rings that depict the image of marijuana, and so on and so forth. Such things are not meant for grown-ups, of course, and they are rather cheap. Some rock rings can cover a whole finger, for example a ring in the shape of an eagle on a sword. In Russian jewelry shops, one may find copies of Nazi rings, as worn by senior Nazi military men. Shop assistants say that such rings are made in Moscow and then delivered to regions. It is not really clear, what kind of people buy Nazi rings, but if they are produced, it means they are in demand.
 
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Thanks Erich for the reply.Not knowing rings I scratch my head at times looking at things.Not a bad siteSDKFZ for $35 U.S.to include shipping.May be a fantsy ring but a nice looking one Cool


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For those of you that did not notice, that site is from Japan, so they are also making rings. (unless they are selling East European rings)
 
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Mad
I shall return a ring to the seller
By the way, it{he} spoke just, that a ring at it{him} since 1993
 
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I forgot also to mention the incorrect grammar on this ring.
Ich beklage einen Helden - I mourn a hero

Should probably be:

Ich trauern um die Helden - I mourn for the heros.
 
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5th Wiking ,Thanks for the translation . The ring is a good known design. For relatives of a deceased soldier. Kind of like a death ring or 'Memento Mori' ring...

The first generation copies of the piece were said to be indistinguishable from the originals. Something must have happened, the die/tooling broke or ??...
The next generation copies had no decal visible on the helmet and no texture on the iron cross..The ones out now are probably wax casting from originals or from 1st generation copies.... The quality betrays them for the copies that they are.. , G.
 
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