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I've had several of these and that is a good looking one at a reasonable b.i.n. price.
 
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Ed, it says the blade is blued. I've never seen a period blued blade on these, have you?

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John, This is the second one i've heard the blade was blued. Mine were both regular satin finished steel.
 
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Gentlemen,

Is the knife Navy Proofed or is it a commercial model?

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They make no mention of any proof mark only the distibutor and maker mark. Rich are you saying this is most likely a commercial piece?
 
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Although it has German source markings, if that is a what I think it is, then it’s a WW I era Austrian Navy Diver’s Knife not German. Very hard to see in the image - but what I’ve pointed out could be an Austrian Double Headed Eagle. Unless that is what you are looking for, then I think that some more pictures might be helpful at this point. FP

 
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I believe the WKC trademark on this piece is later than WW1.
 
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I agree with Ed, that WKC mark is post WWI. I have a Weimar Feuerwehr dagger with that mark as well as an early 3R Feuerwehr bayonet. I can't speak to the stamping Fred mentions, very interesting though.
 
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I guess the seller doesn't have a good macro camera::

Hello, there are two stamped symbols in the brass as you said but they are to me unreadable. I even used a jewelers loupe and still they are meaningless to me. I sure do not think I can take a pic of them. I will try to do macro photography but I do not know if it will work. These symbols remind me of hallmarks such as you see in silver antiques, etc. What do you think they are for? I have taken several pics of these but they are still unreadable to me. I used a fine macro setting on my digital but either the light is too bright or too dim or the flash messes up the image. I am not a pro at photography. But, there are two definite symbols on there and look like hallmarks but I can't tell what they are. One looks similar to an H and the other looks like a beehive or something like that. Maybe you can see something in the pics. They are not too clear but the best I can do. all I know is this is ORIGINAL and was acquired by me from a old time large collection several years ago. it is exactly like the book examples I have seen and the only one I have ever run across in years of looking. It is very heavy solid brass with the blade and handle end screws into the large threaded tube. I hope these photos help you but I can guarantee this be be the real McCoy as I said before. As to the hallmarks, I am not even sure why they are there at all. Never seen that on any German piece before. I have an extensive collection myself and am just thinning it out a bit. I have seen one of these for sale once before and it was priced at over 2000 dollars. I feel my price is very fair and a good investment. Thanks for you inquiry. I hope you are seriously interested in this piece. Larry

 
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Somebody can correct me if I’m wrong. But I think that TW has cited the “high neck” WKC trademark not just as Weimar, but also as seen on some pre or early WW I items as well. I think that it’s a good knife, just not German Navy, having instead having what I believe to be Austrian markings. Posted below: an image from an earlier thread. FP

 
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Great pics Fred and yes probably a contract made piece. I still say it's a real fair buy.
 
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Aug Luneburg were still in business in Kiel during WWII Kiel is on the Baltic in Northern Germany so I struggle with the Austrian landlocked Navy theory
 
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A J, This is from memory so I cannot guarantee the accuracy. But my recollection is that the Austrians had a large naval base on the Adriatic. And that at some point the Germans as co-belligerents also used the base. And while I don’t have any problems with this knife. I did with a Third Reich motif embellished example that I may still have a picture of somewhere. Best Regards, FP
 
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Without the German Naval Proof Marks, it is difficult to call it a German WW11 Diver's Knife. I have numerous Diver's Knives that are Navy proofed. Those that do not have the Navy Proof are usually referred to as commercial diver's knives.

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I owned 1 of these that have some engraving on the scabbard. Tom Johnson stated it was Austrian.


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Old Brigade were offering one earlier this week at best part of £700 but thats gone theres one on www.Speedbid.com at the moment with a starting bid of £250 and no takers Vendor states he bought it in Keil some years ago if anybody is looking for one
I am not the vendor or anything to do with them just giving you all a heads up
 
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