Details from an early Krebs SS officer Degen with the original never changed knot. Original out from germany and was never before overseas or out from bavaria

button detail

I get always appetite when there is a Krebs logo

and there is a RZM label

and gladly the knot with the RZM label

Robert, I love it! Did you get any history with it?

A wonderful degen. I think everybody would be glad to have it in his collection. These early marked KREBS are the rare of the rare.

Robert,

A very nice early Degen. I too am fond of Krebs SS and Pol swords. Congratulations.

George

Well Done Robert,very nice !
Was it from the family ?

many thanks for all your replays. I am realy happy to found this degen.
No it isn´t one out from my family. Normaly we would have some SS items in our family but as it is mostly nothing survived except one Julleuchter who is behind some books in a living room (but I am still with hope). I reveived family related items from the WH Kavallerie an the Nebelwerfer.

Could anyone give me an info if it was possible that an NCO rank received an officer degen? I think it is not possible but we know pictures with NCO´s with the M36 dagger, but NCO´s could purchase at this time private the M36 dagger but not the Degen.

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Could anyone give me an info if it was possible that an NCO rank received an officer degen? I think it is not possible but we know pictures with NCO´s with the M36 dagger, but NCO´s could purchase at this time private the M36 dagger but not the Degen.

Robert,
An SS NCO, regardless of whether one was an Unteroffizer ohne Portepee (junior NCO) or mit Portepee (senior NCO) could not receive an SS-Führerdegen as it was for officer grade rank only, i.e., SS-Ustuf. upward. This requirement had no exception unlike the awarding of the SS-Totenkopfring which could include non-officer grade rank. An Unteroffizier could procure the SS-Bewerberdegen, the one like the F.Degen, but sans the runic enblem with or without grip wire. I'd speculate this preference, to have the grip wired or otherwise, was a matter of choice to the wearer. This being said, I've also obeserved photo(s) of U.Offz. who still wore his Mannschaften SS Degen, but with the officer portepee, the one in bullion with the SS runic in a circle on the stem as yours above pictured.

Also, as a side note, SS-Kettendolch was for all SS ranks, enlisted to officer grade ranks.

NB: There's an excellent short, but gratifying insight to the awarding or matters related to the SS-Führerdegen (or SS-Ehrendegen as it's called per DAL and other SS/NSDAP publications) in Schulze-Kossens' ,,Die Junkerschulen''.

Ahhhh.....schweeeeet Degen Robert...sehr gut.

Me feeling envious now......

Ulf.

Very nice robert .
From where in bayern is this sword ?

Regards.

Very nice - congrats!