Wk&c sabre with fixed ring to scabbard its a real sword that would do the job nicely

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Probably Imperial time period with the fixed ring on the scabbard and a "WK&C" marking.

Interesting repaired ring. It took me a 2nd look to actually notice it. Period repair I'd imagine.

From what I see I’m inclined to go along with George's assessment of this Extrasäbel as possibly being an Imperial era sword (while I can’t tell to a complete certainty from the images, I’m thinking that it might not be a repair but an ‘as manufactured’ fixed ring).
Which in the case of artillery sabers could include a fixed ring. As seen with this WWII period rework of an Imperial era government issue M 1856 n/A Artilleriesäbel. FP

Thanks guys it is a fixed ring its taken a ding over the years.Do you think swords were ever used maybe on the eastern front ?

Fred, you may be quite right. Comparing the two, they look almost the same. It may very well be a period factory mounted suspension ring. I would imagine the rings soldering is much more prone to breakage if the scabbard catches a door or desk. Either way, they seem very seldom encountered. To the best of anyones knowledge, was there an advantage to mounting the suspension ring this way? I guess it would have diminshed clanking sounds to a small degree, which really serves no purpose with dress sabers. Perhaps intended for mounted users? No idea.

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Tom, Like with many things there might be some occasional exceptions. But the ‘short’ answer is that the fixed rings were designed for mounting to the saddle versus the individual. With the “Extrasäbel” simply being a dress off duty version of the government issue duty saber with a fixed ring. Best Regards, FP