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Lets see how far this thread can go, forestry hirschfängers with Eagle and swastika hilts are tough to find, real ones are anyway, there are a number of Atwood Höller fakes out there that I'm sure are in a lot of old time collections, they pop up every now and again. Lets see some real ones. I'll start with a nice Hörster marked piece.

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I know there are guys on this forum who have examples so cmon lets see them.

Gary

 
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Baz69, just for my personal interest, what material is the hilt? Could you - please - show a detailed pic of the eagle?.
Interesting piece, never have seen such scabbard fittings on a period forest dagger. Could you also show pics how these scabbard fittings are fixed?
Thank you in advance,
regards,


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Hi Wotan

The hilt is lightweight, not sure what it is made from but the gilt has held up extremely well which is unusual as most show some loss on these leightweight fittings. The scabard fittings are held on in the usual manner with staples on the rear, interesting to note the lack of numbers under the staples, I presume that they did not make many of these and were not nesessary to mark them such. The Eagle and Swastika as with a majority of these types is very crude.

Gary

 
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Scabard mounts

 
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Reverse lower mount

 
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Reverse upper mount, both upper and lower mounts are steel based.

 
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Textbook piece Gary ( My textbook that is Big Grin) I have an identical one. Here is another-the Clemen & Jung--IMO the highest quality piece of this type in both materials and workmanship.


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Der TIGER


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My C & J Subordinate
(Courtesy of EBAY in '98)


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The Boss:
(Courtesy of somebody named Coates)


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Beautiful dagers guys, here's my C&J, just picked it up.

Gary

 
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Lou, are yours with the metal scabbards or leather?, also what is the length of the blades and overall.
Houston, What fittings are on the tiger, is that a Hörster clam I can see there?,brass or lightweight, has it the narrow blade with the vertical running etch?, can we see the etch panels please. Lovely examples guys.

Gary
 
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Gary,

The Subordinate is metal...10 3/4 " blade....Leader is leather....13 1/2" blade...
Man you sure got nice stuff......
Regards...


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Thanks Lou,

I don't have a monopoly on nice stuff, your two pieces are not to be sniffed at and are lovely examples, I cannot believe the price of this type Hirschfänger, especially the C&J pieces, I think they must have jumped a few thousand in the last two years.

cheers

Gary
 
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Gents,

Great hardware! Cool

Best regards!

Bill
 
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The TIGER has an exclusive etch--a double TM and an aluminum hilt. Sometimes these are unmarked.


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