Just got this in today, I'm trying to find some information on him, not his name as that would be impossible but more like what he did during the war, information on his portepee, type of Hirschfänger he is carrying, the picture is quite clear so I have been able to blow up certain parts of his attire, perhaps there might be some clues in his medals, though most of them are shooting related there are a couple different types. Is this guy a hunter,could he have been in the Guarde Schützen or Jäger regiments, I presume he is allowed to wear his Army?? portepee on his hirschfänger to denote he was in service before. The picture is dated Schützenfest 1926 on the rear, perhaps he is a serving officer in 1926,the lapels are very interesting but I'm not sure what all that means, any information is much appreciated.

Gary

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I think he is carrying something along the lines of this type Hirschfänger, I think the acorns are more deluxe in the picture but it is similar.

Notice the heavy rim to the crossguard in the picture, both of these hirschfängers have similar crossguards, grips and pommels.

Gary

Great stuff Gary...Thanks

This is a Shooting Uniform and IMO he is wearing the correct knot for shooting-dark green-possibly faded a bit--but it also could be an enlisted bayonet knot which he could also wear if he was in army or the reserves. Many hirschfangers of this type that are thought to be hunting or forestry are in fact those designated for shooting--this can be seen in the 1908 Eickhorn Catalog. This catalog has been reproduced and is not too hard to find. For the most part I think most of these catalog designations in the Imperial/Weimar period were often ignored --except for the D guard Forestry which was only worn IMO officially by Professional Foresters. Thus -one can find hunters and shooters wearing a wide variety of styles during this period.The uniform shown here is often represented as a Forester's uniform--but it is not.The lapel insignia represents rank-status-or membership time in the organization. Shoulder boards were also sometimes worn to indicate the same. There were a large number of these shooting organizations during this time--all with different rules and insignia--so it is very difficult to say exactly what some of these things mean.

That's a great portrait Gary.

I love these pictures, if you ever come across any showing the Tyrol badges being worn please let me know as I've been after one for years.

Cheers
Don

Don.

If I ever find one I'll let you know.I really enjoy finding these pictures as well, still a lot to learn.

Gary

Here's one that came in yesterday, not quite as clear. This one dated Hannover 1933, very early but as you can see they are wearing there armbands.The guy in front is wearing a interesting Hirschfänger with a very distinctive lower scabbard mount, the guy in the foreground is wearing a hirschfänger with skinning knife with what looks like a very new portepee, see howit sticks out in mid air, it looks like the leather is still very stiff, comments again are very welcome.

Gary

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Very early Nazis with interesting typical mix of early uniform parts. One of the men wearing the Forestry type uniforms has a very high rank--according to the look of the collar tabs--but does not have the senior type dagger. Not much in the way or uniform dress in those days.

Gary:
I have a copy of the medal he's wearing in my collection. It's in the second from the right in the top main row:
Obverse:

Reverse: I don't know if this helps in the "clue" department but I thought I'd post it:

Jim, Sorry for the late reply, I have been away for the last week or so, Thanks for posting this badge, this guy was obviously in the army at some time. Any information is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Gary

Gary, the forestry officials in the foreground are wearing wellknown types of Uniforms, "updated" with the swastika-armbands. Here are two pictures about the uniform of the guy on the right side of your photo with the embroidered collar tabs. Only a little help.

Kolibri

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Kolibri, Thats great, I can make out what looks like the collar tab on the left of your picture and it looks like the lower tunic.So this would be a Imperial/Weimar uniform that at the time this picture was taken was allowed to be worn,did these guys have to upgrade there uniform at any time or could they continue to wear these uniforms through out the 3rd Reich period.

thanks

Gary

I thought I would add this interesting photo to this thread, not much to be seen from this picture.

But when I zoomed in on the hirschfänger a couple interesting things appeared. Check out this guys hanger, I have seen similar hangers in the past on websites attributed to a police hanger of some sort, also notice the portepee, not the normally seen type, more military I think, I wonder if anybody can help identify this guy, is he a military officer or forestry or??. I must also add that I have seen these attributed to hirschfängers as well.

Cheers

Gary

That looks like a degen hanger he is using. I would say he is a Forester but is wearing the Heer Officer type sword knot indicating he also was an Officer in the Heer. Quite proper. He also is wearing the knot in the typical manner that it would be worn on the Heer saber.

Just now ran across this thread. Interesting lead picture. Where have all those medals wound up?

Jim m's medal is Die Kyffhäuser-Kriegsgedenkmünze des Kyffhäuserbundes e.V.
(The Kyffhäuser War Commemorative Medal of the Kyffhäuser Union). A non-official Weimar period Veterans award.

Appreciate all contributions to this topic.

--dj--Joe