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This story also started some years ago, when I was asked by the local army museum to survey and search an area for possible tanks buried...

I found some concrete casemat's that drew my attention, and this is what I saw next to one...


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Inside the casemate, a lafette for a Bofors 40mm L/60 remaining


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And the view outside to some rusty remains fully covered by earth, stones and trees.


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Inside the casemate, a tunnell in the side leading to...


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The insides of a tank.


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The only thing more or less complete, the turret and the gun!


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The commanders hatch


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And a tunnell in the floor, leading to 2 more tanks just like this!!


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Post ww2 the norwegian army took advantage of the huge piles of german material and supplies, including PzIII's and StuGIII's.

In 1947 the army established what was then known as "Army Light Troops". These were intended for air-base defense, and their OOB was to include 3 PzIII and 1 StuGIII, and an additional spare of either type. The left-over german PzIII's were refurbished by norwegian army depots, and the majority of them were Ausf N.
How exact this was implemented, is hard to say. I've seen pics of PzIII's in these units with the 5cm KWK, and some units had only 1 spare StuG, no spare Pz. Some of the PzIII's even had the Schurzen while in army service.
4 of these light units were established at different air-bases in Norway, but very soon the Marshall aid plan started to come into effect. By appx 1952 the army took delivery of M-24 Chaffee's, which replaced the german tanks in service.

The area I searched was inside the air-force perimeter at Bardufoss, and Bardufoss was one of the 4 places the army's light troops were at.

Here's a pic of the unit at Bardufoss around 1948.


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Almost 3 years after my first discovery of these tanks, the Army Museum of Norway and the Army finally got around to start excavating the first tank.


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finally uncovered


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And on the move to a new home


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Great pics and info please keep us informed if possible

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In temporary storage since last October at our local museum. The turret has the number "2" in yellow. This coincides with the middle of the PzIII's in the picture from '48.


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Turret is a "straight" Ausf N, with a single commanders hatch.


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Then the winter came at full strength, and the other 2 tanks were left in site...

Until this thursday, just 3 days ago!!! Big Grin
These are not yet fully uncovered at the time of the pics, but tomorrow I will get to see them again..
Busy weekend Wink


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The last of the three, and probably "Yellow 1"


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Back in 1953 the army built a defensive fort at a hill very close to the airport of Bardufoss. The purpose was to have close range heavy weapons with the range to cover all entrances to the airfield and the airfield itself in case of enemy forces trying to take over the place.
So these PzIII's were half buried in defensive positions, using wooden covers for the turret as protection for weather only.
All of the interior parts of the Pz are gone - engine, transmission and almost everything in the hull. It is also cut out a square in the bottom as it was built a tunnell for hoisting ammo straight up into the tank.

At a later stage in the 60's these guns were rendered obsolete due to limited range and a new fortified position in concrete was built next to the PzIII's. Another opening was taken into the left rear side of the Pz's so the ammo-tunnell could be used to bring ammo to the new guns. In this process the whole of the PzIII's were totally buried and so these tanks were almost forgotten about. Until a few years ago.
The whole fort was disbanded sometime probably in the 70's or 80's so therefore it wasn't a problem getting the permits to release these PzIII's.

We have now established with a 100% certainty that "Our" panzers were indeed used by the norwegian army post ww2. (interviews with crews on these, and even one man who was part of the team digging them into the ground). We think that these were dug down around 1955.

Some pictures have turned up, showing the norwegian panzers while still in service at Bardufoss, and there is no question that atleast the first we dug up was the tactical number 2 in the unit, painted in yellow on the side of the turret. Later we hope to see that these others have number 1 & 3 on their turret-numbers. (I can confirm that we already see yellow paint, but until it is cleaned we cannot make out the numbers 100% for sure).


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And as for the heritage of these PzIII's..

I believe very strongly that these PzIII's belonged to Pz Abt 211, that came from Finland to our area of Norway in the autumn of 1944.
On the OOB's they are listed as of May 45 with a 4 PzIII's with 7,5cm gun.

Here's a pic of one of these taken in Finland when the unit was outfitted with PzIII's.
I am inclined to think that this is indeed one of the ones we uncovered!! Big Grin Big Grin

End of story so far....


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BATTLEFIELD ARCHEOLOGY can't get enough of this stuff thanks for posting and making my day

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